[tmtranscripts] Elyon Group 10/17/99

[Rick P. Giles]

Coeur d'Alene Teaching Mission Group
Topics: Rewards in Heaven, Soul, Personality Survival
Teacher: Lantarnek
October 17, 1999
	Ginnie:  How do we accumulate good; what happens to the good that we do?  I
think of brownie points and gold stars; is there some "bank" we can put our good
into to be used later?  I know that is an analogy, but how does the good we do
effect us now and in the morontia life?
*	Lantarnek (Jonathan TR):  I greet you, this is Lantarnek.  It would be my
pleasure to address your question.
	This goodness you refer to may be likened to nutrients.  Goodness feeds the
soul.  The soul during your physical life is incubating; it is in the womb. 
Every act of goodness brings nourishment to the soul that it may develop
healthy. 
When the soul is born, you reap the rewards of your acts of goodness on the
morontia level.  You invested in a healthy, strong, and well developed soul that
is capable and ready for the morontia ascent.  The reward for acts of
goodness in
this life is often more for those to whom you have given in kindness and in love
and in ministry.  The rewards received by oneself are often the reflections back
from these people whom you have served.
	The storing up of treasures in heaven refers to this development of the
soul, for on the morontia level it is what is living that is of prime spiritual
importance.  So, as you refer to the "bank", these treasures are not so much
stacks of coins, inert rewards, the brownie points, -- as you indicate you knew
was only an example -- but it is the living, breathing, pulsating alive soul
that
you are becoming.
	All of you are aware of the beauty of the birth of a child into a family
and how often a parent will go to great extremes to preserve this wonderful
treasure.  The greater your expressions of goodness in this life, the more
capable will be your soul functions in the next.  If you were to consider this
soul potential accumulating within you at this point  like a term of pregnancy,
every good mother seeks to nourish this developing child, to take care of
herself
knowing full well that she is taking care of this little one.  Herein enters the
importance of such practices as stillness and the discernment of truth.  Though
these exercises, these disciplines, are beneficial to the personality directly
and immediately in the life you live, they contribute to this future being that
you are giving birth to.
	A father and a mother contribute significantly to the combination that is
the child.  The Father within you and you as the carrier of this growing
soul are
both contributing to the new birth.  But, whereas in the physical realm of
procreation a distinct individual results apart from the parents, in the
realm of
the soul you are merging into one being.
	The percent of return for your goodness investments today is beyond one
hundred percent, and the significance will be better understood on that hour of
your resurrection when you are, yourself, in complete engagement with this soul,
when it has emerged from potential into full expression.  You all experience
soul
qualities in this life, but this soul is morontia in nature and functions on
morontia levels.  In your rebirth on the mansion worlds you will feel it fully,
not objectively, but as you entirely.  I would express to you that this reward,
this soul, is unique to mortal creatures.  There aren't other beings who bring
about such a creation.
	I hope this has been helpful to you, and I would love to receive your
feedback. 
	Ginnie:  I was separating what I do from what I am.  We will experience the
growth of our souls more on the morontia worlds.  Thank you.
	Kirk:  Is it true that, without nurturing or growing your soul, your
chances of survival are lessened?
*	Lantarnek:  In distinction to physical births, as I have done so today in
reference to the soul, on a spirit level once a soul is born it does continue to
survive.  There are no stillbirths.  There are no deformed births.  But if no
effort ever has been made, then the soul is not initiated.  Survival is
unlikely. 
But the soul that has begun can survive, and many mechanisms are in place to
nourish such underdeveloped souls.  You are aware of some of these processes
from
The Urantia Book.  The handicap is that the developments for soul-being that
could have been experienced on earth must be experienced in substitute in the
first mansion realm.
	You know it has been said that it takes no great learning, no extreme
knowledge, to comprehend truth and to live out the will of the Father.  What you
experience is what you have at your resurrection; nothing else is gained.  It is
this experience, not necessarily the knowledge that may have contributed to
experience, that you awaken with.  You might liken this knowledge and many other
forms of purely earth-oriented endeavors as an umbilical cord or a placenta that
serves the purpose of the birth of the soul.  The material mind is left; the
physical body is left.
	The only danger to the continued life of any soul lies in the personal
choice of the being who carries this forming entity.  The choice for survival is
yours.  Unbeknownst to anyone, they may bring into existence their soul. 
Similarly, it is often unbeknownst to a new mother she is carrying a child. 
Everything in the universe is geared toward its continued existence except for
and relying wholly, solely, upon the choice of the personality who harbors this
budding morontia being.
	Does this help you?
	Kirk:  In the end don't the Ancients of Days judge the potential for that
being who grew the soul?
*	Lantarnek:  The Ancients of Days discern which avenues the soul is capable
of progressing down.  For instance you have read where primitives have so little
soul development that Father fusion is not possible.  The Ancients of Days will
discern and judge this condition and order spirit fusion to take place.  The
Ancients of Days will also discern impeccably the will of the personality who is
up for adjudication.  The will must want survival.  If the personality has
rebelled against the way of the Father and stands before the Ancients of Days
choosing to survive, the Ancients of Days will discern the sincerity and the
repentance and will reveal this unmistakably to the personality in question such
that the personality will accept the decree of the Ancients of Days.  There will
be no room for misunderstanding or delusion or confusion.  It may be seen that
the Ancients of Days are experts in revealing to the personality the reality
import and sincerity of this decision for eternal life.  When the personality
agrees to this inescapable truth, then the Ancients of Days will act in making
the decree permanent,
whether it is survival or cessation of existence.
	Further thoughts?
	Kirk:  No, thank you.  You cleared up a lot.  There is your freewill choice
after this life, in front of the Ancients of Days, when they tell you your
future
course.  You can choose not to accept it.
*	Lantarnek:  Correct.  If you choose not to survive, they must clarify to
you the actualities involved in such a decision.  Not only can they be
considered
the executioners, but they are also rectifiers.  They will reveal to the
resistant personality the true nature of the decision such that the personality
will not choose wrongly in the sense of not having all the information to choose
properly.  This is why such beings as Lucifer could continue on in their
activities for so long, because the mercy of God requires that even this being
accept in full knowledge the import and the impact of his decision and be
willing
to receive the consequences, consequences he would choose for himself in full
enlightenment.
	Kirk:  The Father needs that personality who rejected survival.  So,
inevitably does that personality need to be born in a new being starting all
over
again?  That personality that was going to survive has to survive in somebody?
*	Lantarnek:  All personality is potential and resident in the Original
Personality of the Father.  The Father wills that every personality derived from
Himself as He bestows them throughout the realm of the Supreme be
contributory to
the emergence of Supreme personality.  The Father desires all personality gifts
survive distinctly, that these discreet personalities exist alongside the
emerging personality of the Supreme.  The personality that retreats from
reality,
chooses not to survive, leaves a little hole in the Supreme's completeness.  The
Father does continue to bestow personality in an effort to complete the Supreme.
	Personality is a mystery in the universe, and how the Supreme can be fully
maximized in light of the choice of an individual to not contribute to the
Supreme is still under research by many beings in the grand universe.  It is
suspected that the Father has ways of packaging the potentials such that they
will become eternalized by the end of time.  Exactly how He goes about
expressing
all that it will take for the Supreme to stand in full completeness is still not
understood.
	Kirk:  Thank you.
	Ginnie:  What is the difference between one who has not developed a high
level of spirituality or personality development and is simply put into the long
sleep and one who refuses to survive?  Since this is our first life many of us
have come in with disadvantages in making our choices.
*	Lantarnek:  The answer to this question would be far easier to give if
Urantia was in Light and Life, for even on a normal course of development the
issue of survival choice would be more a process of education and selection than
it is today on this world where it is more a case of mystery, misunderstanding,
and bewilderment.  A sleeping survivor who has elected not to survive will
resurrect as would any being at any level of soul development, for, coming
from a
world like Urantia deficient in its spiritual education, (they) must
convince the
Ancients of Days that they, in full enlightenment, know why they are choosing as
they have chosen.
	Ginnie:  On this planet no personality can choose not to survive?   They
have another chance to make a better decision?
*	Lantarnek:  In a sense, yes.  Any personality can choose not to survive,
but they must, upon resurrection, stand before the Ancients of Days such
that all
parties concerned are in full agreement that the decision is soundly made, made
in a Supreme sense with a total understanding.
	In Light and Life the mortal who elects non-survival status may have a
greater understanding as to the import and the desire for such a decision,
but on
Urantia, with all the confusion prevalent, here this decision is often made from
ignorance and frustration and not from enlightenment and a willful election.
	But I would also append to this comment that beings who are reared in a
Light and Life environment rarely choose that option, for they understand more
fully the wonders that lie in store for them in the morontia experience ahead,
for these morontia enticements are more prevalent on a world that is in
Light and
Life.  It is possible to foretaste the new realm.  On Urantia, with all its
upheavals and only this world to compare to an entire universe, the universe can
appear grim and full of more of the same upheavals, conflicts, and defeats. 
Therefore it is witnessed that many beings who laid down their lives hoped for
oblivion and a cessation of trouble.  There are many schools of
rehabilitation to
help these souls who have hurt so profoundly.
	Your religions place great emphasis upon survival choice before the event
of physical death, but it has been revealed to you that there are several worlds
that you must go through before this decision is finalized.  Certainly once you
understand and choose not to survive, this process is greatly shortened.  But
those who choose survival must continue on developing and becoming capable of
that eternity event, the point of fusion.  Then there will be no question.
	Ginnie:  Can we say that people who we think have done terrible atrocities
will resurrect and have another chance?
*	Lantarnek:  Yes, particularly on a confused world like Urantia.  These same
actions in an advanced world would have been made with more deliberateness, more
likely to be iniquitous rather than simply, if I may use the term, spiritual
insanity stemming from malformed development on a spiritual level, confusional
decisions.  Hence the importance of the Ancients of Days to help rectify,
discern, and clarify all the factors that have contributed to the behaviors and
choices of these personalities.
	Ginnie:  If only more people could understand this, have the information we
do, about personality survival.
*	Lantarnek:  Thus the importance of the Correcting Time.  It is good that on
this world today exists this reference manual wherein this information may be
gleaned and incorporated into the life of those who read it.  But it is vastly
more important for all of those who assimilate this understanding to, in their
own creative and individual ways, promote this truth throughout their lives in
whatever ways they can.  Though you may feel insignificant and have a range of
influence that appears to be only a few miles in circumference, this is
considered to be a great contribution to the efforts of all planetary
administrators seeking to enlighten this world.  Just as the Father wills that
all personalities contribute to the Supreme, we wish that all of you contribute
to the correction of the misunderstanding that is prevalent on this planet.
	Ginnie:  Thank you for enlightening us.
*	Lantarnek:  I am delighted to be in service, and I am overjoyed to be in
your company.  May we all continue our tasks with joy and thanksgiving.  I take
my leave.