[tmtranscripts] 1-26-02 Spokane Teacher Base

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DATE:       January 26, 2001
LOCATION:       Spokane, Washington, USA
TEACHERS:   PAULO and MICHAEL
TOPICS:     Existential blues.  Heroes.  
T/R's:          Gerdean & Ginny

THOROAH:  We always are learning lessons.  As you go along they are just less 
and less traumatic.  So I think we're in a trauma state down here.  
Everything seems more dramatic and traumatic.  We're emotional beings.

GINNY:      Right, but I also think that's a part of being immature, too.
THOROAH:    Yes, because babies are very dramatic.
GINNY:  Yes, they are! Indeed they are! 
PAULO:      Hi everybody.
GROUP:      Hi, Paulo!
PAULO:      I haven't been around in awhile but ...
GINNY:      Welcome back!
PAULO:      ... I thought I'd pop in.  Things are under control, in that I 
don't have to be away.
GINNY:      Our group fell apart when you weren't here. 

PAULO:  It's because I'm the new kid on the block and controversial.  See how 
you are?  You love to live on the edge.  When you start feeling serene, you 
think this calm equates to boredom.  You start looking around for trouble to 
get into.  You're at least on a higher track than the masses, for your 
availability for trouble is that which you were promised when the Master said 
that following the leading of the Indwelling Adjuster -- or Him -- would 
certainly be the sure pathway to trouble.  This is a far cry different from 
the pathway to trouble that is a result of rebellion.  So much of your lives 
are a reaction instead of a response.

GINNY: Sorry to interrupt your lecture here, but what's the difference then 
between being peaceful and calm and being stagnant and just too passive?

PAULO:  Well, let's take the analogy of water.  When you see a clear pond, 
it's a sure bet there is a trickle of water coming in and going out, so that 
there is movement under the surface.  The same is true for a lazy river, 
which may be quite deep and swift, and yet it appears to be calm on the 
surface, but it's moving, you see.  It's following a natural course.  It's 
when you get caught up and stop flowing that you become stagnant, and 
sometimes this is brought about by and through complacency, and in this way 
you meander off the natural byway and tuck yourself into a crevice which 
allows you to be still but in a negative way.  You're just hiding in the 
shadows, allowing the film of life debris to cover you over, mosquitoes and 
dragonflies abounding.  

Yes, our swamp friends are revealed here and, believe me, there is character 
and personality in the swamp, that stagnant area that still teems with life, 
but it isn't the same refreshing and revitalizing flow of the living water. 
And that's the context of the stagnant pool as compared to the one that has a 
Source and a direction.  Do you know when you are calm and secure as compared 
to when you are sneaking off to bemuse yourself in the bullrushes in unsavory 
ways?
 GINNY:  I'm beginning to notice the difference a lot.  Somehow when I look 
for amusement or calmness or peacefulness, I think that if I try to take care 
of those needs, sometimes I feel guilty that I should be more active in doing 
more stuff  "out there".  I'm learning now to value my time, where I choose 
to do stillness more, and believe it or not I feel guilty when I'm doing 
stillness.  Isn't that silly?  And to do things that I really like to do, to 
fulfill my other needs rather than just having to make a living all the time.

PAULO: It's because you are rising to the occasion of relationship with 
Divinity, and in many ways you are alone.  This is the existential blues that 
you are singing.  Everyone is gregarious (except for those asocial types, or 
anti-social types, and even the anti-social types enjoy their own perverse 
socialization).  In your gregariousness you realize the importance of 
association and that is what would lean you to/ incline you to think you were 
being anti-social or selfish to be seeking the company of your own Indwelling 
Adjuster or even your own mind.  

What kind of ego would enjoy such an indulgence as its own company?  Well, a 
healthy ego, actually.  But in moderation, for the effect of a quality 
stillness will usually bring the soul to a position of readiness to be of 
service or to live in such a way as to reflect that deity level which 
presents the highest standard of relative perfection available.  It's a 
wonderful aspiration, to allow your perfection to express itself by being.  
And there are many who are uncomfortable with these manifestations of 
perfection for it reminds them of their own imperfection.  It's one of those 
animalistic behaviors that is bent on destroying that which is good for it.  
It's a facet of rebellion.

To stand alone in light of divinity is at once a lonely place, even as it 
"all there is" because you are saying, "I want to be with God. I don't want 
to be with you" and the gregarious aspect, the sociable aspect of your nature 
is offended and concerned..  This is part of the project of knowing yourself, 
knowing how your animal nature plays tricks on your mental composition, 
knowing how your mental composition operates under stress or in fear, 
understanding when your motives are altruistic and when they are 
self-serving, appreciating how you can be of service and when it is that your 
desire to be of service is possibly the worst thing you could do, for that 
purpose, for that person, at that moment.

The mind arena of choice is where you live.  It's the arena wherein your 
Thought Adjuster and your will meet, and wrestle, where the victor of the 
battle will result in a recognition of the Spirit of Truth.  You were talking 
earlier about experience.  The value of experience, and how it is that it 
requires experience to learn these lessons, that on other worlds perhaps the 
lessons are not so brutal or long-lasting, the circumstances of a controlled 
world being different than the circumstances on a decimal world.  The only 
way you can develop perfection is to have the experience of knowing what 
doesn't work.  

 The example of Michelangelo's unfinished captives has been used to prove the 
point.  Within each block of solid marble is a prisoner of the material 
world.  Each creation reflects the power of life to force itself out of the 
confines of the unyielding material reality to reveal the naked truth of 
itself.  The potential is glaring in these works as it is in you who, like 
Michelangelo's captives, half-carved and half-buried in marble, reveal 
yourself only as you are impelled to push your way forward into reality, into 
thin air, as it were, into spirit, as compared to material.  And surely you 
must recognize that your living conditions, your life circumstances as 
mortals on planet 606 of the System of Satania, are as dense as marble in any 
analogy of your emerging reality.  

Usually life is not required to force itself so hard into becoming, but for 
you to grasp the hand of your Thought Adjuster, as it were, and rise to the 
occasion that is presented in your one short life in the flesh, you indeed do 
grapple.  Even to stand up has required great effort.  If you knew how hardy 
you are, you would be surprised, for you think of yourselves as weak, 
doubting, insignificant, pale by comparison to those you admire like Jesus, 
who was a Creator Son.

THOROAH:   We don't have a lot of icons in between Jesus and Moses, so to 
speak, to relate to. That is a real dichotomy. I hadn't thought about that.  
It's the only thing we've been given.  We've been given perfection to compare 
ourselves to rather than to be able to get into the relative state of things.

PAULO:   Here we are in an area we might be able to do something about.  Here 
we are in an area of allowing ourselves to begin to think of heroes, heroes 
being someone you might look up to.  Have you given any consideration to the 
heroic aspects of your own character?  Have you ever thought of yourself as 
being a hero?  I won't embarrass you if you haven't thought of that or 
wouldn't want to say.

GINNY: I think that - here we go again.  It seems like we need a huge crisis 
like the World Trade Center to bring out these heroes.  There were many 
heroes in that scenario, but in our own personal lives we seem to not be able 
to feel as much admiration for our own selves and for our own friends that 
surround us every day. We don't seem to see that as much, and here again we 
are speaking of - it seems to take a disaster before we see the heroism, but 
I think there are a lot of heroes and heroic acts if we just look a little 
more deeply at the people around us.

PAULO:  Indeed.  Indeed. (Long pause.)   I'm not responding because I would 
not know where to begin in painting a picture for you of how heroes are born, 
how they operate.  A hero can be someone who provides eye contact at just the 
right instant, just the right instant for your Thought Adjuster to attach 
innately to the Thought Adjuster of the individual you look at.  The point 
here being that in that eye contact is the potential for your spirit self to 
reinforce your fellow men such that they are encouraged.  Indeed, stimulated! 
 And thus accelerated.  And empowered to go forth and do good works. Perhaps 
to smile at someone else who needed their reality reinforced.  

 There was a discussion just the other day at this Teacher Base about this 
kind of thing, this opportunity that you have here on this world to oblige 
spirit reality.  This is the "why" of when you hear the celestials envy your 
opportunity, and why the angels weep over your stubbornness. If you were to 
open more of your self to the divine nature and give in less to the 
seductions and demands of the animal nature, you would be able to feed these 
hungry lambs.  You would be able to bring them into a field of influence in 
which spirit can operate.  But as you fall back into your old comfort zones, 
your old habit patterns of not wanting to be different, of not wanting to be 
heroic, of not wanting to stand up and rise to the occasion of being all that 
you can be, of acquiescing to the tired humor of yesteryear, of divesting 
yourself of your ennobled inheritance and cuddling up to the creature 
comforts of the litter, of extending overmuch sympathy to the faint-hearted, 
acquiescing to authority that has no business telling you what to do, these 
are ways and means that are provided for you that we would eagerly pounce 
upon.  Or at least we say we would!  We are not in your shoes.  But from our 
perspective, from our vantage point, from our experiential level, it would 
certainly be a lot more enjoyable for you if you did engage in these kinds of 
things that would enhance reality and bring you and yours much more happiness 
and peace.

THOROAH:  I think we think of peace as passive.  That's not necessarily the 
case.  Peace could be rather dynamic!

GINNY: There was a question in Coeur d'Alene a couple of weeks ago about how 
we can be peace makers and still have the qualities of a warrior.  There was 
a question that was put to the group that we had a chance to think about.  

THOROAH:  It's easy to be peaceful when we're isolated.  I would like to be 
at peace in the middle of the activity, and have peace of mind so that I am 
in control.  There needs to be some element of self-mastery in the equation.

GINNY: I just got a chance to review the movie "Ghandi" which has been on the 
television the last couple of days and that's an example, a more modern 
example.  I tend to think that Jesus was a long time ago and his world was 
different, so here was a chance to see a more human, a non-divine person, 
come up from the dregs of the society that looked down upon the untouchables 
and people of other cultures and other races.  Their hopes of this man who 
was willing to stick his neck out, so to speak, and was able to influence 
millions of people, from India, to adopt a non-violent attitude, but 
certainly not passive!  He was not a passive person.  At all!  He was very 
active, but it was non-violent, and it was just a beautiful example of how 
that can be done.

PAULO: Yes, peace is not passive as much as it is non-violent.
GINNY: Non-violent, but active.  Taking steps that he thought was a righteous 
goal.  He was ... 
PAULO: Heroic!  
GINNY: He was heroic.  

PAULO:  You are very reluctant to nominate your fellows to heroic 
description.  You also tend to shun recognition of heroism in your own 
experience.  And yet look at the Christmas story, "It's a Wonderful Life."  
Each life is a potential miracle, and each human being certainly does impact 
everyone he or she touches.   Whether they affect people positively or 
negatively is up to you.

GINNY: I think because of our gross nature we tend to need a lot of 
sensationalism to impress us. We have be hit over the head before our 
attention is gotten, and I guess that is just a matter of maturity.  We have 
to learn to spot our chances for heroism in a quiet way rather than needing 
to be ...

THOROAH: Entertained.  
 GINNY:     ... entertained.

THOROAH: We get entertained and I think that distracts us enough so that we 
don't have to really do anything.

GINNY: Right.  We have to be hit over the head before they get our attention. 
 We have to have tragedies or disasters.

PAULO: You love status quo.

GINNY: Certainly all these people at the World Trade Center disaster were 
what they were before the disaster, which certainly wasn't something that 
just popped out automatically.  Certainly all these people were prepared to 
be heroic.  But I think we are also prepared to be heroes if we just step 
out.  Like that Nike thing, "Just Do It!"

PAULO: That's the way to rebel on this world.  Just step out and do it!

THOROAH: I like what Earl Nightingale used to quote, someone who said, "We 
follow the leaders when we start to school following the leaders," and 
actually back at school we're not even following the leaders, we're following 
the followers. And we learn early in life to fit in.  

GINNY: And what a sad day it is when we as children learn that those we love 
are not really as noble as we thought they were.

PAULO: This is true, and it's not the same as recognizing they are imperfect; 
it's that they are sometimes fatally flawed.  

THOROAH:    Sometimes we have the wrong impressions.

PAULO: Well, that's the unique experience that you have - you Urantians -- 
you'll never again be able to compare yourselves to others and blend into the 
masses like you do here.  You'll be identified.  As you say here, "You can 
spot him coming!"  This is true however for all agondonters.  

THOROAH: I think that possibly with all of that identity that we carry with 
us that it's going to dawn on us in a heavier fashion that Yes this was the 
world that our creator chose to bestow himself, but this is also the world 
that killed its creator. That ... How could you not be identified for the 
rest of your existence!

PAULO:  Indeed, I can see someone coming up to you from another world, having 
heard your planetary history, and say, "how can you stand to live with 
yourself?"  How can any survivor of such a travesty endure?  How shame-based 
that must prevail within your social consciousness.  Such an awesome sense of 
responsibility must permeate your cellular structure on some unconscious 
level that recognizes you have murdered your creator. 

 THOROAH: And now we're going to do something about it. Turn that around into 
something positive.

PAULO: It certainly means you must stop blaming yourselves and rise to the 
occasion of stepping outside that mental paradigm that dominates Christianity 
and that is also prevalent in other major religions as a result of the same 
primitive and warlike ancestry of your evolving animal nature.  It must reach 
a point of allowing the animal conditioning to take second place to the 
spirit awareness that is your actuality.  Rise to the occasion.  Support each 
other in this heroic struggle to stand tall, without shame, without guilt, 
without blame.  But with full understanding of how that woeful experience, as 
well as other many planetary mishaps, have distorted your roots such that you 
have had to rise above a great many tribulations in search of the Lost Chord. 
 Having found that Lost Chord, hold fast to it and let it carry your voice 
into the realms of purity that are high fidelity.  High fidelity attainment.  
Is that the music of the spheres?

GINNY: I think we can be too hard on ourselves, too, when we realize what 
we're starting from as agondonters, that we have been able to at least make 
friends with our Adjuster.  If we can at least get that far on this planet, 
to me that's an heroic act.

PAULO: Indeed this is an accomplishment.  And this is your first duty.  Only 
as you are able to identify with your God Fragment are you able to be useful, 
truly useful. 

THOROAH:    Where are Thought Adjusters created?  Well, they are a fragment 
of God.   They come from God, but they gain identify someplace.  I guess 
that's "where" I'm looking at.  Where that identity comes to be. 
GINNY:  They don't fully gain personality until ...
THOROAH:    We have the personality.

GINNY: We give them personality.  I would have to re-read that section to 
answer that question properly.  They are God.  They are a fragment of God. 

PAULO: They are a part of the Mystery, but they do hail from Divinington, 
yes, and no, of course, I have not been there.  

GINNY: Have you read that section in the book?

THOROAH: I probably have read that section.  I'm just - the reason I asked 
that is because I think the hero - one of the heroes in all of this has to be 
the Thought Adjuster!

GINNY: Oh, yes.
 THOROAH: Because the Thought Adjuster found this mission.  We're latching 
our boat to the Thought Adjuster and so far has us being heroes. I think 
we're enabled to be heroes. We're hanging on for dear life and there's a 
whole lot of heroes that we're latching onto.

GINNY: Yeah, the midwayers are certainly heroes.
THOROAH: Yeah.

PAULO: And this is where you can cooperate with them.  These heroes that you 
think of who, without thought to their own safety, rush off to the aid of 
others, have given up their self-interest to serve others.  

THOROAH: There would be myriad waiting in the wings already active but 
waiting for more and more activity.  I think we'll be seeing or meeting a lot 
of those people who have given up everything of their own thoughts just to be 
around here to help us.  

PAULO: The factor that we haven't seemed to touch upon here today is that 
while our discussions emanated from a reflection of what the World Trade 
Center travesty brought upon you as a people, that is to say impelled the 
growth of faith, the growth of the spirit, this is true throughout the world. 
 The experience in New York has triggered the experiences of others, 
everywhere, to review their own - not only their mortality, but their 
traumas, their own life traumas that have been nicely packed away in a memory 
bin somewhere.  The audacity has brought forth the hidden feelings of 
millions of people.  

The post traumatic stress disorder of war or accidents or violent acts of all 
manner are being relived by the collective consciousness of Americans in 
particular and world citizens in general.  Yes, it is indeed a trigger point 
for growth, a large one, but there have been many others and there will be 
many more until such time as these times emerge into a clearer tomorrow, a 
brighter destiny because these many psychic wounds will have been healed.  
The spirit has been able to nurture many people into growth, into more mature 
pathways already.  

GINNY: I can imagine.  Someday our world could have these responses without a 
disaster.  Wouldn't that be wonderful?  If people would come out of the 
woodwork and be willing to help each other.  

PAULO: All it takes is the right trigger, the right impetus, and this is 
where your opportunities lie. This is how you are able to bring your training 
from Divinington into your arena and uplift the man or woman or child who 
stands next to you, by seeing their spiritual counterpart captive in their 
mortal density.  Reach inside to the potential, to the power of potential 
inside.  Help them to rise up, push out from the constraints of the material 
world into the freedom of a life in the spirit.  One step at a time, one 
moment at a time, one mortal at a time.  Move the world along, advance it 
into more of its own destiny.  There's no time to become stagnant.  If you do 
stay protected in your alcove or your comfort zone, you yourself will deprive 
yourself of the opportunity to live a vital and thrilling existence, one 
which pays off in eternal dividends.   But as long as you continue to equate 
yourself to the animal kingdom, over and above your identity with your spirit 
nature, you give the fleshy parts 51% and morontia mota 49%.
 THOROAH: We don't want to indulge that fleshy part.  (Group giggles.) 

GINNY: And also in the transcripts from Coeur d'Alene, I was just reading 
Elyon - I think it was Elyon - maybe it was Lantarnek.  It was the lesson on 
growth, how it is necessary to be content with yourself in order to grow.  In 
other words to be content with where you are now, that you can't get 
anywhere, you can't grow anywhere unless you understand where you are right 
now.   So it takes being in touch with what you are and where you are and a 
forward looking attitude, that there is something better.  Both are needed.

PAULO: I will say that it isn't necessary that you be content, but it is 
necessary that you accept.  In fact, if you can accept what is, without 
feeling content about it, you will see where the growth potential lies, and 
you will have innately the impetus to do something about it, but if you're 
comfortable, where's the point?  I'm not saying comfort isn't a natural part 
of sonship, or even of creature life, but you don't need comfort.  You need 
acceptance.  Acceptance isn't always comfortable, but this is where there is 
growth, even in conflict.  I'm out of my league in psychology.  I'll leave 
that to first phasers.

MICHAEL: This is your sovereign and your friend.  Can you imagine that?  
Having a sovereign as a friend?  If you would but spend some time with this 
truth you would have many hours of contentment.  

My mandate for you to be perfect is not meant as a burden.  It has become 
burdensome become you have to deal with densities and complexities of the 
material world.  And you have done well to be able to see beyond this gross 
part of your reality and this indeed is the purpose of this your first 
experience as a personality, to have the ability to choose your path, your 
fate.  

It is our intention that you take this responsibility, this gift, with a true 
and light heart and to keep in mind the eternal destiny which you have.  It 
seems at times so very, very far from you, but in reality it is also very 
close to you.  As soon as you recognize your companion of divine origin, this 
is my intention that you have some relief, some hope, some certitude about 
your existence here, and I'm sure all of you can certainly say with great 
certainty, that this is true, for where would you be without this 
realization.  There are many who do not have this life.  There are many who 
flounder in darkness.  There are many who have no hope.  So where do your 
heroic acts lie?  Where can you activate that part of yourself that reaches 
beyond the gross, temporary solutions to modern problems.  

When I was on your planet I had to deal continually with communion with my 
Father and still pay attention to the needs of my children, my earthly 
children, who were constantly tugging at my sleeve for some attention.  I 
know whereof I speak.  I share this experience with you.  I have experienced 
what you are at this time dealing with, and accepting the reality of each 
person that you contact as a stepping stone for spiritual growth.  Everyone 
hungers for honor.  Everyone has natural craving for truth, beauty, and 
goodness because it is a natural outpouring of recognition of your 
anticipation of divinity.  

 You may not think that you have much public recognition in the world, but 
who are you trying to please?  Whose accolades do you want?  Whose attention 
do you really need?  If it is ours, you have no reason to doubt or fear that 
we understand and recognize your heroism.  You don't have to explain very 
much to us.  We see everything.  All important values and attentions and 
desires are seen and used in a timely fashion, so be assured that all your 
good thoughts and desires and intentions are felt and appreciated and used.  

We do not grow one iota from your good deeds except, of course, as our 
Supreme Being grows.  But we do delight over every thought and intention of 
yours that is coming from a value, whether it becomes a reality on this 
planet or at some other time.  Be assured of my recognition of you as heroes, 
on the path of righteousness.  In you I am well pleased.  Be of good cheer.  
Good night. 

 


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