[tmtranscripts] Nebadonia 1.30.06

[JERRY LANE]

Nebadonia—January 30, 2006

Marin TM Group—Mill Valley—U. S. A.

Nebadonia—T/R-JL

(All spirit is personal)
(The courage to question ones concepts)
(Deja-vu)
(Archetypes and individuality)
(Solar system dynamics and earth stability)
(Does heaven already exist somehow on earth?)
(Staying out of trouble, or not)

Dear Mother Spirit and Michael,    Mother, we greatly enjoyed Your last 
lesson on the spiritual nature of truth, for it reminded us that only spirit 
is all inclusive.  You brought us closer to the greater truth: that truth 
itself, while it can never be our possession, can be our orientation and our 
goal.  It can be our eternity-quest.   And so it is at one and the same time 
the real, present bedrock of our life, and the eternal encompassing that we 
seek both within and without--the presence of God.  Amen.

NEBADONIA:  Good evening, My children, this is your Mother, Nebadonia, and I 
accept your greetings with a warm heart.  If you will only let Me, I will 
return your love many-fold.  Congratulations are in order too, for you are 
taking My lessons to heart and gleaning the truth within them.

(All spirit is personal)

This is so closely tied in with Our lessons on humility, and what a 
spiritual blessing it is to be able to perceive that the context of your 
lives is truly enormous.  This is true not only in the physical dimensions 
of time and space--those millions of galaxies out there, some of them 
billions of light-years from your little blue sphere, but also in the 
unfathomable meaning of so many thousands of different kinds of spiritual 
beings who form a family of which you too are a member.  This was Michael’s 
prime lesson last week, that all spirit is personal.  It is a kind of 
radiance from a personal being, and the primal, original source is God 
himself.

His nature, which we call divinity or that which is divine, is most nearly 
expressed by the English word: sharing.  This is why we exist, why the 
cosmos exists: God wishes to share His power, His creativity, His awareness, 
His joy with all of us.  But keep in mind too, we are increasing by the 
endless trillions on literally billions of inhabited planets much like 
Urantia.  Your scientific observations are correct, the universe is 
expanding space-wise.  But you have to accept it from Us as a matter of 
faith that the number of inhabited planets throughout the seven inhabited 
Super Universes, these too are multiplying; just as there are more and more 
human beings everyday on Urantia.

This is God’s doing.  He is the source of all these blossoming, personal 
beings.  It’s interesting.  If you pay very strict attention within 
yourselves, you can imagine and feel this expansion, but only momentarily, 
for it fits in with your expression: it blows your mind.  It’s a real, 
happening expansion, but it cannot be captured by your mind, either.

Faith is that quality within human reality that lets you realize the 
fundamental reality--your unique personality--that you are. This is that 
God-creation that realizes, makes real, all the different facets of your 
being: your sense perceptions, your mind organization giving meaning to 
these physical facts, then your spirit too, of which you are all continually 
surprised, is part Me.  I am actually part of your thinking, part of your 
knowing, part of your mind.  Yet it is your personality which makes 
everything real to yourself.  So with your intrinsic powers of spirit you 
can realize, through faith, that which you cannot know by any other means.  
This, if you will, is the function of faith.

(The courage to question ones concepts)

Your personality--you, originating from God, can have a quality of 
recognition so that when your faith informs you of something, this quality 
of recognition lets you realize it.  But this is not absolutely infallible, 
My children.  Here is where it takes the courage of the character you have 
built up from experience, to question everything that your mind can grasp as 
a concept and articulate to you. This is why your faith is ever out in front 
of you like a pathfinder, always reaching for more that what you have 
already fully comprehended.  Your faith is always struggling to find truth, 
to find spirit, to find God.  And here most of you have experienced 
sometimes, if only momentarily, the ineffable, ungraspable, inexpressible 
pure substance of the Divine.

But the function of your mind is to try to express this to you, partly so 
you can have it as a memory, partly so you can share it.  Yet insofar as 
ultimate truth is the very encompassing of your life, all that you do posses 
in concepts and meaning is open to your courageous questioning.  This is how 
you remind yourself, My children.  This is how you stay humble to the fact 
that the truth itself is ever beyond any expression of it.

No pun intended, but this is truth’s wondrous quality, the quality that 
invokes wonder by its presence.  It calls to you and leads you to God’s ever 
greater encompassing--Himself.  All the while--you are correct, it is your 
very bedrock.  It is the most solid ground on which you base your eternal 
life.  In your stillness, you embrace its living qualities.  There is a 
knack to this.  It takes a bit of doing.  If you can just watch your own 
breath, you can learn how to observe something that you can control, but 
choose not to.  You can be a little more still and feel your heart beating 
without deliberately feeling for your pulse.  Ever more still you can feel 
the extremely subtle background of your higher consciousness.  And yet 
beyond this is the soft, tingling, higher floating-down of Our presence and 
love.

Then you notice it’s very large in here.  There are really no limits to 
dimensions in here.  There is no final demarcation between in here and out 
there. This is how spirit permeates all.  This is where you and your Father 
Fragment, the Mystery Monitor whereby God experiences you, this is where you 
are both already one. This is where He has already been part of everything 
you can recall.  It’s just nice to be consciousness of it.

You can invite Michael and I into your lives.  You can send a heartfelt 
Thank You to your Father Presence, and your Guardian Angel, every so often.  
Are you beginning to feel like a little crowd walking along?  This is also 
part of the truth, and why wait for your Morontia life to be aware of it?  
Your soul is already halfway there, so in your stillness you can have some 
foretaste of what is to come.  For this too, if you will, is part of The 
Plan.

You were created with this potential, My children.  Enjoy it now and let it 
lead you to greater health, to greater strength and power, to greater 
openness to enjoy your dear fellow friends while you are all still alive in 
this first phase of your existence.  This is the wonder of it all, calling 
you to join the dance.

If you have any questions or comments this evening, we can do little 
do-se-do.

Student:  Mother Nebadonia, I have what might be called a general 
information question.  I’ve been experiencing what we call deja-vu, ever 
since I can remember it, mainly from high school on.  I’m just wondering 
what it is and why do I experience it?

(Deja-vu)

NEBADONIA:  Yes, C, the term generally means momentarily experiencing a kind 
of double consciousness.  Part of you knows very securely that the situation 
you are in is happening for the first time, however similar it may be to 
even dozens and dozens of other times; still you know this has never 
happened before.  At the same time you are getting some inklings or some 
other consciousness--for however long, sometimes only a few seconds--feeling 
that this exact situation did happen before, and you are repeating it.

I hope I’m not disappointing any notions of profound psychic intuition here, 
but this is generally only a psychological phenomena where your mind is 
momentarily distracted and functioning on two relatively autonomous channels 
at the same time.  For most people the consciousness that this is happening 
brings it to an abrupt stop.  This is very similar to peripheral 
hallucinations or visual distortions that vanish as soon as your 
consciousness turns toward them to get a hold on them, and finds they simply 
disappear.

You may find it interesting to note that there is an exact opposite to 
deja-vu and, as you say, the French have a word for it too.  It’s called 
jamais-vu or “never-seen.”  This is where you are not in a new situation, 
but in a very familiar one, perhaps going down the sidewalk to the corner 
store to buy something as you have done hundreds of times in the past.  All 
of a sudden everything seems startlingly new as if you have never done this 
before.  Unfortunately, as delightful as this sensation can be, it too is 
usually very short as your mind automatically tries to grasp hold of it, to 
realize it.  You find yourself wishing they would happen longer, for the 
charm of these moments; but then they are all too fleeting.  Does this match 
your experience, My son?

Student:  Yes, Mother it does, very much so.  I guess I’m going to have to 
give up my profound spiritual ideas about these times being…real.

NEBADONIA:  I’m afraid so.  (group laughter)  They are very charming, as if 
you were momentarily in some science-fiction time-traveling, or in what you 
might call a closed temporal loop where everything is repeating itself.  But 
I’m afraid these only happen in the movies.

At the same time I will tease you with the very real truth that time is 
infinitely more complex than what you have yet experienced.  But this too 
awaits a later time and an altogether profound re-birth on what you call The 
Other Side.  Do you have any more questions?

Student:  No, Mother, I don’t.  Thank You for the answer clearing that up.  
I look forward to that profound experience on The Other Side.  Thank You.

NEBADONIA:  You are most welcome, My son.  You will not be disappointed. 
Meanwhile, be in My love.

Student:  Mother Nebadonia, I have a question for You to answer, if You 
would please.  I’ve noticed for the few years that I began the discovery, of 
knowing that I’m going through a recycling or re-birthing of some things 
that happened to me twenty years ago.  One of these started last year in the 
form of an archetype of a person that--I really don’t understand or know why 
I’ve encountered, or experienced, or have met this person.  He has some 
traits that are like my former husband, and it’s just been a big puzzle.  I 
don’t know what to do with the information other than, just have…found 
contact--that has gone on with it--a compliment, so extreme in some places; 
and yet no true connectivity results. What is happening?

(Archetypes and individuality)

NEBADONIA:  Yes, My daughter, it seems this is another case of experiencing 
two facets of a single reality simultaneously and not knowing where exactly 
the balance is.  The word archetype generally refers, as the name implies, 
to something typical, a type-aspect of a human being that many individuals 
share. You have your classical archetypes of mother, father, son, and 
daughter, sister and brother.

If I understand you, you’ve encountered someone who shares many profound 
traits with your previous husband.  Perhaps the puzzling comes about when 
you do recognize that, however many similar traits these two persons share, 
they are separate individuals; and archetypes, My daughter, can be very 
abstract.  In this they’re somewhat like a stereotype.  And so I sense your 
dilemma is how to discover which is what.  What is the true personality of 
this new person you’ve recently found?  For to do so, you will have to 
penetrate your own projections, your own ways of wanting to see in him 
certain traits you may fear have been lost to you, in your former husband.

We’ve given quite a few lessons on the reality of projection.  The fact is, 
as you go about your day to day life, you yourself are a part of everything 
you encounter outside of yourself, in terms of meanings and values.  These 
actually affect--and are part of--your perceptions.  Since this is the 
general human condition, it helps to be aware of it. To be open to seeing 
each person as an individual requires penetrating your own projections, and 
appreciating the uniqueness of their God-given personality.

This may call for a certain kind of sacrifice.  You have to give up the 
notion that you can somehow repeat, or make up for past experiences.  This 
is a very sweet, romantic notion, but it is an illusion.  The past is 
inherently irrecoverable.  I do appreciate your desire, My daughter, to find 
the truth, to see beyond or through the archetype to the unique individual 
himself.  Does this help you understand the situation?  Does it seem to 
apply?

Student:  Yes, it does.  Thank You.

NEBADONIA:  As Michael commended last week, it does take courage to pursue 
the truth in these situations, because there is a choice to be made when 
confronted with a sweet illusion, and what you call the cold hard truth; or 
what you call at other times the nitty-gritty, when the warm, living flow of 
life seems to have a few cinders embedded in it.  But the reward, My 
daughter, is this bright, shinning, unique personality, if you can only 
perceive him.  Do you have any other questions along this line, or others?

Student:  What is to be learned from the experience, or have I already 
learned what I needed to…actively want?

NEBADONIA:  There is much to be learned, not in the least part, how your 
mind works.  Chalk this one up to self knowledge, for by way of this self 
knowledge you should be able to get a more comprehensive truth on both these 
other personalities, your former husband and your new acquaintance.  You can 
see what they have in common and, hopefully, how they are unique.  If you 
are open to it, this is all for the good.  I think you still have some more 
to learn; so don’t close the books yet, but keep your wonder strong.

Student:  OK, thank You.

NEBADONIA:  You are very welcome; be in My love.

Student:  Well, I have a question for you, Nebadonia, tonight, that’s kind 
of a science question--since You mentioned science and consciousness, I 
guess as You call it. You alluded to the big universe out there and the 
planets, the Super Universes.  This is a question about the solar system and 
our planet Urantia, and I wonder if this is something You can answer.  
Perhaps it’s something not for mortals to know about.

It’s good to think, to look at the issues that are happening with the 
changes, the earth changes on our planet, because it would appear that 
things like hurricane Katrina are being caused by global warming, and some 
of that’s man made.  But I’ve seen in some transmissions, some other notions 
about where the heating is coming from.  I also have noted that there is a 
phenomenon of global warming on the planet Mars, and it would appear that 
perhaps the sun is changing and heating up both the earth and other planets 
now; and that even, in fact, that could be one of the reasons why we had 
Katrina and all the other events of strange weather that we are 
experiencing.  I wonder if You can say anything about that, whether the 
solar system is the cause, the primary cause, and not man made global 
warming.

And secondly, whatever may be the cause of the weather instability, can 
human consciousness and prayer affect the changes in the weather and the 
earth? Directly or indirectly?  So it’s a two part question: whatever You 
can say about the causes of this bizarre weather, and other changes on the 
earth; and also, can human consciousness affect that, and alter the course 
of that?

(Solar system dynamics and earth stability)

NEBADONIA:  Yes, My son, as to the causes of some of your recent upheavals, 
I would say they are still very much within the parameters of what the earth 
itself and its ecosystems--irrespective of human kind--are capable of 
manifesting.  Some of the longer or more broad cycles, as you know, have led 
to, on one extreme, extensive ice ages, and on the other extreme, extensive 
de-forestation and desert-like conditions.  (Yes)  Yet within these great 
cycles which are totally natural, human influenced global warming is a fact, 
a very minor one by comparison, but still there.  You cannot dump trillions 
of calories of heat into the atmosphere and not have some effect.

It’s hard to quantify these exactly because seasons such as you’ve just gone 
through with so many hurricanes are well within the normal range of natural 
fluctuations.  The more you understand your weather and are able to 
interpret history, you realize there have been what you might call natural 
mini-ice-ages, (Yes) several centuries apart; whereas in other parts of the 
world the major human effect has been one of de-forestation--in South 
American rain forests and previously in Africa, where the forests have been 
cleared for human cultivation.  In parts of India and China there has been 
enormous de-forestation just for firewood. (Right)

Meanwhile the oceans are relatively intact, perhaps not along the 
shorelines, where you go swimming, but in their enormous depths, and it is 
the fluctuations of the various ocean currents, you are beginning to 
understand, which give rise to your cycles of seasonal changes. (Yes) These 
are yet far beyond the ability of human consciousness to effect directly.  
The way your Urantia book puts it, the direct manipulation of physical 
realities by the personality is a Creator prerogative. (Yes) This is not to 
say that at some future date, or on those more greatly advanced inhabited 
worlds, this is an impossibility. (Yes)

But the control of the weather on Urantia is still, for quite a few 
millennia to come, a matter of physical control and not susceptible to 
direct spiritual responses. (Yes) This is another one of those humbling 
facts, and you can do your best by looking for physical causes--your own 
human uses of energy that impact upon global warming.  Does this begin to 
answer your question, My son?

Student:  It sure does.  Most of the pieces have been addressed.  I’ll just 
kind-of restate one part again.  You know, from time to time, we see these 
predictions of the earth changes, and the current one that’s come across to 
some of us is an indication that there’s a change in the solar system--that 
it’s solar system wide.  It is caused by perturbations brought about by the 
tenth planet crossing closer to the solar system, which is one of the key 
features causing changes on the earth through, if I understand right, the 
heating up of the sun and perturbations in the sun’s energy.  This is 
causing not only weather change here, but actual earth  motion of the 
tectonic plates.  Here again I understand that there may be things that 
should not be revealed.  But if there is anything You can say on that, it 
would be helpful for me to, You know, to work through this current issue.

NEBADONIA:  I believe what will help your understanding of these purely 
physical phenomena is the appreciation of the masses and distances involved. 
(Yes) The planets have very little effect on the sun. (Yes) A single solar 
flare, even a minor one, could easily engulf all the planets, swallow them 
without a trace.  Even the so-called effects of planetary alignment are 
mostly astrological, and not truly astronomical. (Wow)

The mass and the nearness of the moon does effect your tides and the 
sub-tectonic plate circulation of magma, but still the tectonic plates float 
on this sea of molten rock and are relatively undisturbed by the moon. (Yes) 
They have their own internal forces, which, as you know, tend to split the 
larger masses of a continent.  This is what you have to keep in mind, My 
son--the distances involved and the relative masses.  This has been a long 
study of mankind, how to separate astrology and astronomy.

The planets have very little effect on the sun. (Yes)  Keep in mind too, the 
sun has its own internal cycles it goes through, and it has been getting 
more and more stable as the millions of years pass.  Does this answer your 
question?

Student:  You’ve gone very far afield with me and I appreciate it so much, 
and the T/R as well in this little inquiry, so I’ll let that rest for now.  
It was very helpful.  That’s fine.  Thank You very kindly.

NEBADONIA:  You are most welcome, My son.  It is always interesting to 
contemplate these purely physical wonders of God’s creativity.

Student:  Isn’t it so.  I think it’s part of our spiritual growth as well.

NEBADONIA:  It is awfully big out here.  (laughter)  So know you are in My 
love.

Student:  Yes, Mother, there’s hundreds of things going through my mind 
right now, in what I heard tonight.  But one thing you just said to B about 
human consciousness not affecting what’s going on, on this planet: are we 
not creating an imbalance because we lack consciousness--that we have more 
of these phenomena, earthquakes and tsunamis and hurricanes, because we are 
lacking consciousness, that we give our power away without understanding, 
away to greed and the desire to have power over nature?  If mankind is able 
to raise the consciousness to that of what was intended, wouldn’t this 
kind-of be a whole different form in the placement of living?

(Solar system dynamics and earth stability)

NEBADONIA:  My son, keep in mind that mankind mainly effects mankind, not 
the planet.  The major effect of mankind’s gradual enlightenment and 
cultural maturity has a direct effect upon other people. A reduction in 
warfare and crime has the most profound effect on the net happiness of the 
human race.  But these are still largely economic issues, and so a more 
equitable distribution of wealth and the access to energy, a greater 
conservation and wise utilization in the preservation of natural resources; 
these would enormously benefit all mankind, but have little effect on the 
physical planet itself in terms of earthquakes and huge weather phenomena.  
This is what I meant in answer to B’s question, that mankind is slowly 
creating a small effect in global warming, it is true.  It does exist.  But 
it’s still very small, and so mankind’s enlightenment would most immediately 
and profoundly effect other people, but have only a minor effect on the 
planet itself.  Does this help you separate these two realms?

Student:  Yes it does, because when You first started answering that we 
don’t have an effect upon the planet, You said how we are affecting the 
Amazon and the rainforests, and the de-forestation and all that, how it 
affects us.  But also I remember hearing many years ago, some spiritual 
teacher saying that if human beings left things as they were, didn’t 
pollute, didn’t cut down more trees, didn’t do all this other stuff that we 
are doing, that this planet could be healed in seven years.  Is this true?

NEBADONIA:  In all these questions what is needed most is a sense of 
proportion.  Yes, mankind does effect the planet, but you must keep in mind 
too, that the energy generated by a very small plate shift, such as created 
the enormous tsunami last year--the energy released is almost incalculable 
by human standards.  In other words, there is no way mankind effects plate 
tectonics.

When you talk about healing the planet meaning healing the human 
relationship with the planet, for other humans: yes.  If you could push a 
button and have everybody be enormously enlightened tomorrow, certainly 
within a decade the amount of human suffering through simple starvation, 
malnutrition, exposure, let alone the episodes of genocide that still break 
out and take the lives of hundreds of thousands--this is still the world you 
are living on, My son--this is what would be most immediately benefited by a 
greater overall enlightenment: simple compassion for your fellows.

So this is the work before us, is it not?  This is the work before all of 
us, Michael and I included. It was for this He lived His life with you; and 
also for all the other worlds of our Local Universe.  His human life was not 
only an expression of God for all the humans and personal beings living—all 
Our children, it was also an expression to God, and us, of what was possible 
in a human life: both.  There is real work to be done in the universe, and 
it would be a true hell if there were not.  This is almost the meaning of 
meaning itself.

Student:  May I say one thing, Mother?

NEBADONIA:  Sure.

Student:  I just remembered, because I have it on my wall, something James 
understood about Jesus.  James was thrilled to understand that He just 
wanted us to live on this planet as if it were Heaven.  I think that’s the 
most profound thing one can take in, that heaven already exists here beyond 
this veil of sorrow and grief and oppression.

(Does heaven already exist somehow on earth?)

NEBADONIA:  Well, not for nothing are these planets called the nurseries of 
time and space, the origin of potentially eternal beings.  If I’m not 
mistaken this is what I invited you to realize this evening--the next phase 
of your lives, which I promise you will find far exceeds your most heavenly 
notions.  This exists, in part, right within your very own souls, created by 
the presence of God within you.

Truly, from Our point of view, with the full view of your souls, My son, We 
see the enormity and can appreciate the vastness of what you are, that you 
can only get little glimmerings of.  But Heaven is not here yet.  The soul 
wealth is here. We’ve also given these perhaps strange-seeming lessons on 
how, while you are yet only beginning to start, and taking the very first 
step on the road to perfection, you are nevertheless, moment by moment, 
complete--whether you can realize it or not.  You may just have to take My 
word for it.  (long pause)

But you may always make a comment or ask questions, My son.  As you notice, 
that’s partly why I kind-of sign off these exchanges and say, Be in My love, 
to signal My answer is through.  (long pause)  So!  Do you have any more 
comments or questions?  (laughter)

Student:  This would be on what I wanted to talk about tonight, or ask 
about.  I guess this one thing that I was thinking about was my own self 
respect, and how I come to understand, in my relationship with 
others--certain intimate relationships, how sometimes I get challenged and I 
accommodate the other persons values, overriding my own to my own detriment. 
  Then I go through, in a sense, a crisis within myself, that I’m not being 
true to myself, and so I desire to stop doing that.  I desire to honor who I 
am and not lose myself anymore. That’s the lesson I learned this week.

(Staying out of trouble, or not)

NEBADONIA:  Good! (group laughter) You have a very good grasp of the 
situation, after it’s happened.  Now the trick is to see it coming.

Student:  You and Michael always say to trust my wisdom, and sometimes I 
don’t realize how wise I might be, because it’s never been honored.

NEBADONIA:  But what you are asking, My son, is: you’ve already found out 
how to cope with these things after they happen; it’s how to see them 
coming. (Yeah) That’s another whole ball game, as you say. That takes a 
greater sensitivity.  It’s like our old bug-a-boo of Monday Morning 
Quarterbacking again. (laughter)

Some things you do have to try in order to know.  Then there are some things 
you would sincerely hope you would not have to try, and run head on into, in 
order to know they are there.  This calls for greater sensitivity, and being 
open to your own wisdom.  It may mean curtailing or seeing through some 
momentary promise, to realize it will not seem worthwhile afterwards.

You know this in a physical sense.  Your experience working has put you at 
physical risk from time to time in certain situations, and you know how fast 
certain dangers can pop up.  So you have to see these dangerous situations 
coming before they happen.  Similarly, try to understand what it was that 
enticed you into these--what you call--mistakes.  What was the promise that 
later fell flat?  Does this make sense?

Student:  I’ve asked that question myself.  I have asked honestly, what is 
the pattern?  What is going on within me as I’m going through this, or prior 
to that?  Is it an over-generous heart?  Is it being over-idealistic and 
optimistic without the realism and the full spectrum of everyone?  That is 
what is going on, and I thank You.

NEBADONIA:  Well, persevere.  Like so many other things, it’s your sense of 
proportion because so often the answer is: all of the above--to some degree. 
  And some of the things that get you into trouble are, strangely enough, at 
times, well worthwhile, such as being overly generous, or entertaining 
another’s propositions with all your heart.  I’ll even say some trouble is 
well worth getting into.  That’s why it’s called an adventure. The more you 
think about it, one definition of adventure might be: that which you cannot 
know beforehand.  And so you recognize once again how you are standing on 
the edge of the unknown, and calling it home.

Student:  And also leaving the baggage behind, that I do not want anymore.  
And take the next step.

NEBADONIA:  Let’s say amen to that!  (Group: amen!)  And Be in My love.

Well, My children, we’ve thrown a big loop around it tonight.  (laughter)  
And so we let the circle close in upon itself.  Yet I’m always here right in 
the middle.  I know it must seem strange to you, that so much of what you’ve 
always felt was only your own mind, is more than you.   Yet it’s always been 
this way.  We’re only inviting you to add a quotient of appreciation.  So 
off you go to bed, sleep well.  Have a nice journey home, C.  (Thank You, 
Mother)  Thanks to you for the love; I can feel it radiating to Me.  Please 
let Me return it.  Good evening.

Group: Good evening; Thank You, Mother.


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