[tmtranscripts] FW: Monjoronson Dec 08 2009, Audio Session #78
Tom Newbill
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Thu Dec 17 07:29:09 PST 2009
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Monjoronson - Soul Families - Race Meanings - Universe Age - Dec 08, 2009 -
Audio Session #78
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Monjoronson.com Q/A Session #78 2009-12-08
Teacher: Monjoronson
T/R: Henry Zeringue
Moderator: Mary Rogers
Topics:
Soul Families
Racial Meanings
The Age of The Universe
December 08, 2009
Prayer: Father connect us in this love, hold us in oneness as we attempt
again to articulate the spiritual vibration such as a needle picks up
musical vibrations off of a vinyl record, [as if] to touch spirit in this
moment. Thank you Father for this.
Monjoronson: Greetings this evening, this is Monjoronson and back to the
question and answer concerns for our electronic data base. Thank you for the
effort that keeps me connected to this level of the population, thank you.
Mary: Welcome Monjoronson, thank you for coming along.
Soul Families:
Question #1: This questioner want to know if perhaps Thought Adjusters
proceed out from the First Source as groupings or identities. Might the
Thought Adjusters and their associations with each other somehow come into
play with determining who we find ourselves in relationship with and to
during our physical life?
Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. To answer this question I will
reference the Urantia papers text to the sphere of activity called
Divinington which is a somewhat secretive and off base sphere. Yet what is
known is that Thought Adjusters arrive on Divinington, are given
assignments. After they have secured them they are tested. They are not sent
out as groups and there are not many details as to how it is known or either
what constitutes the decisions and choices made by these Thought Adjusters
that go out and work within different types of human species.
Since Thought Adjusters can operate continuously from one individual on one
sphere to another individual on another sphere at another time
intermittently does not give any rational explanation to the inner workings
of these infinite and creative aspects of the First Source and Center. What
is certain is that there is an innate ability as drops of water have an
innate ability to coagulate together into one large puddle, so do the
Thought Adjusters have a propensity to engage in inter-communication and
coordination of activities based on the responsibility of the indwelt
subject.
There have been in recent times, more self-acting Adjusters sent to inhabit
the children of Urantia. They exhibit a more aggressive nature, a nature of
light within the being which exerts itself directly within darkness. Thought
Adjusters do not return to the Father on completion of service. They return
to Divinington and are reassigned. One can only imagine the storehouse of
intricate information which goes into coordinating these perfect aspects of
the Father. Thank you for this question.
[Philip] Preamble: Monjoronson, It's always been my understanding that at
some point my Adjuster would fuse with me and we would be around forever. Of
late I've read and heard several inferences which was much like the one
you've brought forward, that our Adjusters, when the mission was done,
return to Divinington to be re-assigned which seems to implicate we are not
always going to have our Adjuster with us. The reason I think it important
is because I've always taken it for granted that my Adjuster would be with
me and I could always ask Him [questions] when in a more conversant mode.
It's important to me that if He perhaps isn't always going to be around,
that maybe I'd pay a little more attention while He's with me even though if
billions of years down the road, at some point it sounds like, He is taking
His leave.
Question #2: It this where the gap between the 6th degree finaliter and the
7th degree is? Do we become perfected then and go back into service in this
universe or maybe on to the outer universes? Could you speak to that please?
Monjoronson: Thank you very much for this concern and let me say that I
should have clarified my statement about the Adjusters returning to
Divinington after the job was done. After the job is done, refers to the
when the human has rejected, finally rejected, consciously rejected the
influence of the Adjuster within ones mind and that person has chosen, if
that person is on the mansion worlds, that person has chosen annihilation.
Or if it happens on the world of nativity, the Adjusters do not return and
the persons are not re-personalized.
What is referred to as the Adjuster's terminating their jobs sometimes
refers to Adjuster indwelt mortals who are not of the Adjuster fusion series
yet they entertain the Adjusters for a lifetime to gather experiential
experiences before they are embraced by either the Son, the Spirit or the
Father. There are many reasons why Adjusters indwell humans and do not fuse
with them. Make no mistake as to your present situation and ordeal of living
with your own Adjuster; the final agreement has not been negotiated in this
life and it will continue through the portal as your are re-personalized
with your Adjuster and yes, the intermediate space, the interim space which
exists between your death and your resurrection, the Adjusters do sojourn at
Divinington and refresh their next course of attainment with their human
subjects on the mansion worlds.
So be not concerned that you will not have adequate time made available for
use to gain the wisdom of the [ages] and fuse with your Adjuster. Obviously
there are still some lessons to learn. The mansion worlds provide adequate
resources to accommodate the various levels of Adjuster activity that humans
entertain with their Adjuster. The spiritualization of a human is usually a
group effort from the spiritual standpoint. Does this answer your question?
Philip: Yes, it sure does, you scared me a little bit. I just got a little
pang of loneliness all of a sudden and I'm encouraged by that answer, thank
you.
Monjoronson: Well thank you for this concern and the occasion to respond
greater as to what is meant by when the Adjuster's job is done.
Multiple Uses & Meanings of the Word Race:
Preamble: This next question has to do with the use of the word race in some
references within the Urantia Book, in particular this questioner recalls
that the Urantia Book mentions that at the resurrection halls we will be
segregated by race and then they are speculating that perhaps 'by race' they
don't mean the colored races like on a planet but that perhaps the race of
mortal beings from a particular planet like the human race from Urantia as
opposed to a mortal race from another planet.
Question #3: Are we correct to call all species variations on one planet its
human race?
Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. This question and the material
from which it references in the Urantia Book is based on the fact that
within the universes, the Universe of Nebadon in particular and within the
system of Nebadon, the initial morontia experiences are set up to provide
security, familiarity and an environment in which the individuals grow to
finish the training to become one with the Indwelt Spirit. On most normal
worlds, most of the races have already been amalgamated, they have been
brought into a blending of one race. In those instances, in the initial
mansion world experiences this is usually what is meant, segregating into
races, planets or beings who translate that have not been amalgamated and in
particular, worlds such as Urantia which have not very much blending in
terms of all of the genetics.
It therefore becomes necessary on the mansion worlds to segregate in terms
of families, social groupings, groupings which become familiar when one
crosses over. It is true all of the different genetic makeups within the
family of man or a race of humans, this is certainly true. There is an
outworking which amalgamated and blended races don't have to go through
which people which exhibit other racial tendencies [that] have to make
adjustments and again, these generalizations have nothing to do with the
specific nature of Urantia mortals who make it to the mansion worlds or make
it to the probation areas of the mansion worlds.
Most of the segregation is done by man himself. Considerations are taken
into account as to the nature and sensitivity of the individual. There are
many aspects of the mansion worlds which humans will find peculiar yet there
are functional factors which go into deciding how the mansion worlds conduct
their business. Again there are large groupings of families into communities
in the initial mansion world states. At this time I cannot say much more
about this, thank you.
The Age of the Universe:
Preamble: There seems to be a difference between the age that scientists
think the universe is and the age which the universe is according to the
Urantia Book.
Question #4: Are we correct to infer from the Urantia Book that the age of
the universe is far older than what our modern science is saying?
Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. Urantia scientists have not
completely understood all aspects of cosmological relationships. What
Urantia scientists call the ages are references to conditions and reactions
which took place at the actual formation of the Universe of Nebadon which
took a tremendous time to establish an order and maintain order within all
of these suns. The scientists on Urantia see from a linear time relationship
which is not the same time relationship which exists on the universe level
of Nebadon. The references in the Urantia Book are based on universe time
relationships. References within your local system and within your own
planetary systems are referenced to those time levels, the system level and
the planetary level. Urantia scientists cannot be expected to reference
things in universe time relationships. Thank you for this question.
Preamble: The questioner says that there must be, apparently from science,
that we know there are four fundamental forces from nature that have to be
in an exact ratio for life to exist. [gravity, electromagnetism, nuclear
strong force, nuclear weak force]
Question #5: Do these energies have to be in place before the creation of
the stars and planets? Are the Architects of the Master Universe the actual
creators of the stars and the planets and afterwards the Creator Sons
manipulate them to begin their local universe?
Monjoronson: The activities of the Master Architects deal in the physical
attributes and actualities of the universe as well as the time and
relationship activities of the universe and the spacial quality to the
actual Grand Universe; the coordination of universes within the Grand
Universe comes under the direction of the Master Architects and their
constituents. The Master Architects hail from Paradise to reflect the Havona
pattern through the Master Spirit of the particular Superuniverse of their
designation and coordinate all activities based upon these patterns. The
Master Architects design and credit the intentions of the Michael's to
complete their universes yet it is not the activities of the Master
Architects themselves which create the quantum movement of energy and mass
which create the stars and the massive heavenly bodies yet they are all
meticulously designed within the consciousness of the Master Architects. The
Grand Universe, physically, is a reflection of their hand in its
manipulation, thank you.
Question #6: One reader pointed out that they felt that the Big Bang is the
"Roar of the I Am." Using that label, was there. In the time/space
universes, any roar made by the I Am which we can physically examine?
Monjoronson: Again, this question stems from the activity of the Master
Architects for the specific universe of time and space. In essence they have
been commissioned by Paradise through the activities of the Central Deities
to perform in Havona-like manner, the repercussive qualities of time and
space as it is reflected from within Havona. Rather, the roar of the I Am is
the initial contact of the Thought Adjuster to its indwelling subject when
that subject has reached the final stages which precede Adjuster fusion in
which the Adjuster makes direct contact. This is at the end of the Hall of
Ages, that long and somewhat tedious undertaking which is made tedious by
the animal nature of the subjects sphere of habitation. There is not much
reference for this phenomenon on Urantia at this time and we are ever
hopeful. Thank you for this question.
Mary: Thank you Monjoronson for addressing these questions. The human mind
is quite serious about trying to figure out things about the physical
universe and the Urantia Book brings up a lot of these questions in peoples
minds and I appreciate you addressing some of them. That is the end of
tonight's questions, thank you.
Monjoronson: Thank you again for this opportunity to shed a little more
light of clarification on some of the concepts which people are trying to
negotiate within their own minds, to see them more clearly and understand
them with a greater reference or with the references they do have, to
understand more about the universe. One of the peculiar things about the way
that things are set up; things are set up on a need to know basis, if you
need to know something, that will be revealed to you. All information serves
all people, particular information serves particular individuals. Thank you
for the effort extended to qualify the questions that you ask at these
sessions. Good evening.
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