[tmtranscripts] Monjoronson.com Q/A Session #85 2010-01-26

[Tom Newbill]

Subject: Monjoronson.com  Q/A Session #85  2010-01-26

Teacher: Monjoronson

T/R: Henry Zeringue

Moderator: Mary Rogers

Prayer: Father/Mother God, we step into this circle of eternity tonight,
this spiritual energetic circle again to contact spirit and to put our faith
and trust in the line of spirit. We again ask for the presence of
Monjoronson this evening as we gather together for the Monjoronson question
and answer session. In all things we trust the intention of spirit. Thank
you.

Monjoronson: Greetings this evening, this is Monjoronson here to again take
part in this human/spirit dynamic of the question and answer format. We are
ready to begin. Thank you.

Mary: Welcome Monjoronson, thank you for being here with us once again.

Global Economy:

Question #1: Is there anything we can do now to affect the change from a
profit-driven economy to a service-driven economy?

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. Considering the state of the
political and economic conditions of your planet, it is well nigh impossible
for you to shift in a considerate manner from a profit to a non-profit
service oriented global economic condition. The long term change over in
conditions will result from being forced into this condition by situations
which will come about on your planet such as the recent collapse of a small
country and the stable countries bringing forth aid in an effort to work
together to stabilize the situation and the conditions. When you have some
of the most powerful and progressive political countries of your world
operating on a profit mode and all other subordinate factions of the country
supporting this profit mode it is going to be extremely difficult to bring
about a peaceful and productive model or service which is also profitable in
terms of stimulating the economy.

There are situations on the planet in terms of thinking, and some
corporations which have begun to incorporate a more or less aggressive
approach to profitability but these remain small and not very much attention
has been placed on the ability of these few examples to become a model for
globalization. Yet, in time, conditions will shift on the planet making it
less profitable to use war and the stimulus of war as the prime motivation
for economic and political stimulus. Thank you for this question.

Question #2: Could you give us an idea of what a service-driven economy
might look like as opposed to what we're used to now? That might help us
begin to see how we could take steps personally or at least somehow envision
that as a positive future reality.

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. The resulting condition of a
society which operates on a greater service oriented profitability is one
that has been brought up from the individual to the group, into society. It
will be tremendously difficult to organize a serviceable economy with the
philosophic prototype which exists within the mind of the people on your
planet as of now. It will take a massive reorganization beginning with
individuals who begin to synchronize their belief system and the way in
which they act to engender a greater sociological manifestation of
serviceability and global profitability through this. Actually the term
would be profit-sharing.

It takes a tremendous reorganization for man to begin to see that all men
are equal no matter their political boundaries, their language, their skin
and racial type or rather their economic condition. Once mankind begins to
acknowledge and show respect for another there can be no massive
globalization of a serviceable profit sharing of the economy and growth of
service oriented institutions and corporations. For when mankind begins to
function on a level which acknowledges and shows respect for one another,
then it is possible to begin to move into a sustainable culture so that
profit is not made off of selling things which belong to everyone such as
the water on the planet which is used to turn turbines in to electricity,
the air on the planet which is for all life to live by. Even the earth
herself belongs to everyone, not just a few who then majority profit on
miniscule sales to their brothers and sisters.

Yes, what you ask in your question is an ideal, it is a way in which a
service operating and orienting group of people can do business. But this is
a purely human challenge and if this is to transpire it has to be a
tremendous focus of many and it needs to begin now for it to manifest many
many generations from now. It is a purely organic movement, it is not
something which can be legislated. Again, thank you for your concern and
this question.

Thought Adjusters: 

Question #3: How are Thought Adjusters assigned to their mortals?

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. You ask one of the great mysteries
in the universe. Thank you for this question.

Mystic Circle:

Preamble: Recently the term 'mystic circle' was used to describe a group
assembled for deep meditation. Such a term as 'mystic' carries to some of us
an unwanted 'new age' connection that many of us would like to put behind
us.

Question #4: Are we now to be known as mystics?

Monjoronson: Thank you for this questioning. It is not within the realm of
spirit to determine how humans see themselves or call themselves or are
known. We have no authority in such matters. You are known by your action.
Only the Inner Indwelt Presence is privileged to your inner thought and
inner consciousness. The rest of spirit must observe action. This being a
peculiar question in the sense of turning to spirit with a purely human
situation which humans are at liberty to call themselves whatever they like.
Thank you.

Mary: Thank you Monjoronson. I understand your reply and that basically --
you know -- what's in a name? But nevertheless there are still people who
are asking about this particular word which has apparently has some
non-positive connotation with some folk because there is another question
along that line. Perhaps it might be an opportunity to speak to our human
tendency to get distracted by a term and be more concerned about a term than
we are the actual thing that is being talked about with that term.

Question #5: In all humility may I ask why the word "mystic" is being used?

Monjoronson: The word mystic is being used because humans are using it.
There may or may not be any reason for this. I am not sure what this has to
do with the spiritual authority for your planet.

Mary: Yes, I believe that there was a feeling that this was a word perhaps
used by you in a transmission to describe a meditation circle that would be
somehow distinguished by the depth of meditation and this was referred to as
a 'mystic circle". I understand that you do not choose the actual words that
are spoken by the t/r, the t/r chooses words that they feel encapsulate the
message that they are getting from you.

Monjoronson: Absolutely, it is necessary in these questionings to direct
such questions to specific t/r's which bring through certain information. As
for this question, 'this' t/r has no reference for this situation. Thank
you. 

Mary: Thank you very much. Perhaps we will transfer some of these questions
to the original t/r that termed this system and see if we can help people to
some greater understanding through that avenue. Thank you for the
suggestion.

Spiritual Prompts:

Preamble: I have been waiting to ask this question to someone who truly
knows the answer and will not mislead me, I pray you can help. For the past
year I have been seeing some unusual time patterns, 'double-digits'. Meaning
when I look at a clock I see: 22:22, 15:51, 16:16,00:00 etc.

Question #6: What does it mean and does it have something to do with my life
purpose? Thank you.

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. Again, I might not give you the
answer that you seek for this question. I would say, if you are drawn to
recognizing something greater in your perception it would become necessarily
important for you to pay a little more attention to how you are perceiving
these prompts and in your own reality, what you are perceiving them to be.
This may be something purely personal rather than a group phenomenon. [is
what I am referring to] In all personal matters of perception, it is always
best to consult ones higher self, ones Indwelt Monitor for a more exact
prognosis of this phenomenon. It is true, that spirit does prompt an
individual but usually spirit prompts do not involve some deep seated
meaning, situation, or condition. They are just an alert prompt, alerting
you to consciousness. For example, there is a popular prompt on your planet
which involves the 1,111 midwayer corps which is on your planet and people
are prompted by the letters 11:11 yet this prompt is nothing more than an
acknowledgement in consciousness. Again, thank you for this concern and
continue to look deeper and open to the possibility of what your Inner Guide
is prompting you about. Thank you.

Mary: Thank you Monjoronson, I always appreciate the reminder to do our own
checking with our Thought Adjuster and the best we can to discern and look
for those things that we need to know.

Crop Circles:

Question #7: The prophets of long ago on Urantia told their listeners to
watch for signs and symbols when a new age is to appear. Do we, as observers
of life around us indeed see new symbols and signs before our eyes like crop
circles to indicate the change of epochs on Urantia?

Monjoronson: Thank you for this question. It is interesting that such a
question is asked of spirit to tell us if we are correct or incorrect in
perceiving something. When spirit tells you that the most important thing is
contacting your Inner Guide, your Inner Spirit presence and your ultimate
response to intelligence, there seems to be a sluggish response by the human
race, observing the social conditions and situation on your world. Spirit
cannot truly tell you how to perceive anything yet as the prophets say,
there are certain signs which you should become aware which show that a new
season is upon you. In the light of present world situations, it is ironic
that one would ask: Are we living in times of change, are we ready to move
into a new season, is the old season done for?

When the little buds begin to come out on the naked branches of the tree you
know that spring is approaching. When the fruit begins to ripen you know
that another season is upon you. When you see the world situation come to a
halt, a dead end you should become aware that it has taken society into a
wrong direction. Is this the sign of a new age? quite possibly. Are crop
circles an indication of a new age? or are crop circles an indication of
midwayer activities. Prophets have alerted men to the sign of the times
because of their conscious[ness]. You must learn to read of the sign of the
times with the eye of conscious[ness]. There is no actual way in which one
can actually determine tomorrow.

One can only remain in the present 'now' yet it is possible to live a life
in which you are completely in synch with reality on a greater level which
insures that the coming day serves your benefit yet there should be ample
signs on your world and within your society which shows that you live in a
time of extremely volatile nature. Things are poised on the verge of great
change. It is within this consciousness of great change at which you are
poised that one can begin to consider how to be in synch with the times
which are upon you and always, at all times to be in synch with the times
which are upon you demands that you be in synch with the spirit which
indwells you. That way you are always prepared for the times which are upon
you. Thank you for this question.

The Will of the Eternal Son:

Question #8: We have learned the difference between a Creator Son and Avonal
Son regarding God's will. Would you please tell us what are the differences
between Universal Father's will and the Eternal Son's will for you and for
us?

Monjoronson: If I understand this question correctly you are asking what are
the differences in will? There is no difference within these wills. All will
is one in a spiritual sense. Though the duties and functions of the
Universal Father and the Eternal Son take on different aspects, one of the
basic differences in function is that the Universal Father through the
Adjusters function on a personal level. Since this question is being asked
by a human, the human is indwelt by this personal representative of the
Father. Also since you are a human, you are directly associated with the
phenomenon of the Creator Son having bestowed Himself on your world as a
representative of both the Universal Father and the Eternal Son.

Yet the activity in the realm of the Eternal Son and the Creator Son is not
so personal, it is more gregarious, it is more of a brotherhood/sisterhood
of seeing all men and women as brothers and sisters on your world so that
one is a personal spirit which motivates the individual. The resultant
Spirit of Truth is a gregarious and social spirit which brings man into
social functioning of personal beliefs and personal acts. Just as there is a
distinction between the Universal Father and the Eternal Son, so is there a
distinction in their functioning, yet their wills are all concerted to the
will of the Universal Father. The Universal Father's will at best is: Be you
perfect as I Am perfect. In all aspects, all considerations can be accounted
for under this heading.

If you are doing the best you can, if you are trying to discern a greater
will, in all ways this is shown to you personally. Again, the Eternal Son
being a different person has different functioning. The Eternal Son does not
function within the same way the Universal Father does. Again, the
functioning of the Eternal Son is trying to bring man to the consciousness
that we are all one here on this world. All life is one, not only men, women
and children but plant and animals. All of life is one and the Eternal Son
supplies the life pattern for a particular world as part of the Eternal
Son's functioning through the Creator Sons of the universes. So though the
functioning's have distinct earmarks, the will of all spirit is concerted in
effort and aligns with the will of the Universal Father. Again, thank you
for this questioning.

The Urantia Sign:

Preamble: Me, my mom and my sister used to have the most weird experience,
all as individuals but the same experience. When I would go in the shower it
would be so steamed up that you could hardly see around, but always,
standing in the shower when I looked in the mirror I could see bright lights
coming from my eyes and as I got close, the brightness, the light, would
still be there but then I would be able to see the Urantia sign, 3
concentric circles in my eyes and nothing else and it would look so amazing.
Later it was revealed to me that my sister and my mom used to see the same
thing!

Question #9: Please, can you help me with what the above experience was
because we all feel that there is a meaning to these great things that we
saw, and hopefully we can finally know what that meaning is. Thank you for
your help.

Monjoronson: There have been and do exist on Urantia individuals who have
borne the burden of Christ's passion to the point that some of these
individuals have actually manifested bleedings scars on their hands and side
and forehead. There is even a name on this world for these individuals. I
personally am not conscious of what it is that brings one to manifest such
things except that they are constant human reminders of something that took
place. Also understand that while this is happening there is a whole
universe of beings like yourselves on other worlds who for thousands of
years have been praying for this world and the people upon it. They pray
that the animal savagery which displayed itself at the end the bestowal life
of Michael of Nebadon will somehow be redeemed and that man will eventually
attain consciousness.

I give you this example to show you that there is nothing predominately
significant in these individual lives except that to a social culture, they
bring the recognition of truth of an actuality which did take place on your
world. Who knows why things are the way they are. Sometimes it is important
when things present themselves that you yourself find a meaning for the
meaning is very personal. It is not for someone else to tell you what this
meaning is.  It is for you to truly discover within. Just as the case of
individuals who through their physical nature reflect the passion of Christ
Michael on Urantia, do not make the mistake to think that somehow spirit has
manipulated these individuals into exhibiting what they truly exhibit.

Nonetheless there are tremendous factors involved in the quality of mind
which exists on Urantia which make it susceptible for many  things to
manifest of which there are no explanations. One cannot look outside of
oneself, one must trust ones own sense of what something means and define it
as such. On a world such as Urantia there are countless things which happen
to people which have absolutely no explanation from a spiritual standpoint
yet spirit works with human perception. Human perception is credible in
terms of spirit just like human will, human action and human love is also
credible. What you ask is: Does this experience reflect some greater meaning
in my life? And yes you must search within yourself for this greater meaning
because something is happening personally to you and no one else. So again
thank you for your interest in this line of questioning and continue to move
forward in a greater understanding of what is happening. Thank you.

Mary: Thank you Monjoronson and we certainly appreciate your being here with
us tonight. That was the last question we have this evening. You are
certainly welcome to make any further comments that you would like to make
before we close this evening.

Monjoronson: Yes, I would like to make the comment that the human race on
Urantia has not changed very much in thousands of years. During Christ's
time, Christ was appalled by the sign seekers, the thrill seekers, the
miracle minded. Not much has changed. Your people are still trying to
distinguish right from left, up from down, outside from inside, what I
should do and what I shouldn't do. Must I love my neighbor, must I love
myself? It is interesting that even when a great being as Christ Michael
would choose to manifest and show forth a life of human glory, that
intelligent humans balk at how to deal with it and what to do about it. From
a spiritual standpoint this is truly appalling, that in 2,000 years your
human race has learned very little.

Not to say that as individuals, some of you have grown into consciousness
and continually work for the betterment of this consciousness and the human
race. Yet so many of you are afraid to open your heart. So many of you are
lax in a moral nature and now in America it is becoming popular not even to
accept responsibility for ones own action or ones own doing. My question for
you is: What will it take for the human race to truly begin to pour forth
with an open heart to a consciousness which allows for a greater brotherhood
exist on your world, where justice and equanimity hold the same place as
truth and love, as compassion and forgiveness, as acknowledgement and
recognition? Do not become discouraged. Continue to ask these questions and
continue to seek. Thank you very much and good evening.

Mary: Farewell Monjoronson and thank you.






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