[tmtranscripts] FW: Monjoronson - Life of Inquity - Interfaith - UB as Religion - Scope of FER - Mar 04, 2010 - Audio Session #90

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Monjoronson - Life of Inquity - Interfaith - UB as Religion - Scope of FER -
Mar 04, 2010 - Audio Session #90
 Subject: Monjoronson Q&A  Session #90  2010-03-04
Teacher: Monjoronson

Subjects Discussed This Session:
 A) Physical Reactions to Meditation/Stillness
B/Life of Iniquity
C/Interfaith Cooperation
D/The Urantia Book as Evolutionary Religion
E/Scope of the Fifth Epochal Revelation

T/R: Jonathan
Moderator: Philip
March 04, 2010



Jonathan:  We welcome now the guidance of our Magisterial Son. As we lift
our minds to him to seek answers it is our hope that we can be of assistance
in the mission to bring Urantia further in its evolutionary development with
the goal of attaining light and life.

Monjoronson (Jonathan TR):  This is Monjoronson.  I welcome the opportunity
to be with you and to receive your questions.  This form of fellowship is a
delight to me, and I look forward to our time together today.

Physical Reactions to Meditation and Stillness.

Preamble:  Lately when I try to relax and meditate I feel tremors in the
arms and shoulders; also my fingers move lightly.  But that already happened
before when entering sleep.  The only reference to such jerks I could find
is in a Christ letter attributed to Jesus in which he explains how to
meditate. ½If this happens be thankful as your consciousness is penetrating
the barriers of your previously created consciousness forces encapsulating
your soul.

      
Question #1: Are these involuntary muscular movements the result of
accumulated tensions?  Will they eventually disappear?  Or are they a
symptom of a beginning of a nervous disease?

Monjoronson:  Thank you for this question.  It is difficult for me to
evaluate precisely your condition, as the symptoms are indicative of various
conditions present in the human body.  You have illustrated two, that being
an indication of the onset of a neural disorder, the other having more to do
with the intimate connection of the mind through brain with the nervous
system and the muscular structure.
      
As you enter into stillness and elevate consciousness to a higher level
there can be at times manifestations in the physical form.  These
manifestations occur as the mind releases its grip upon the body.  As
consciousness turns inward the body is allowed to function in an automated
manner.  It is through this process that meditation becomes health-giving,
for the body is released from mental tensions as the mind looks away or
looks up or looks within. It allows for relaxation.  It allows for rest.
      
As you continue your practice of stillness you may find that in the
development of higher consciousness and spiritual connectivity that your
mind bears less upon the body with tensions, and these symptoms both during
meditation and while falling asleep will ease off or disappear.  However I
also encourage you to investigate other causes, for any symptom does not
indicate a single cause, and if you should perhaps be developing a disorder
it is wise to pursue examinations, for some causes are best alleviated if
addressed early on.  Evaluation will put to rest your concerns, and you may
then proceed in your practice of stillness with the comfort that you are
aiding of the health of your physical form and not ignoring it.
      
Thank you again for the question.

Life of iniquity
      
Question#2:  Is it possible for the lost sheep, or normal-minded
evolutionary mortals on this planet of default since the days of Pentecost,
to make a perfect voluntary decision to deliberately lead an iniquitous life
and thus lose their Thought Adjusters here and now forevermore?
      
Follow-up question #3: Are un-perfected mortals capable of making such a
decision?

Monjoronson:  Again, thank you for this question.
      
Since Pentecost with the infusion in the minds of all mortals with the
Spirit of Truth it has become more difficult for a whole- souled iniquitous
decision, that being the complete rejection of God and truth and the
aggressive pursuit of evil; for the Spirit of Truth continues to ring loud
in the soul, ever bringing to light reality and stimulating one's response
thereto and the reaction thereof.  That being said, however, the volitional
center of all human beings is sovereign.  Each one of you, while amply
assisted by multiple spiritual influences, presences, and beings, has the
ability to screen out or reject these powers, these personalities. If it
were not so you would merely be a mechanical function of the will of God at
play in the universe.  God has ordained all creatures of free will the power
to choose their actions.
      
On a world as confused as Urantia it becomes less clear the finality of such
a decision to become wholly detached from the divine, from righteousness,
goodness.  The lack of guidance upon your world has caused great confusion,
and some indulge themselves in such rebellious actions without the awareness
that there are truly eternal consequences, that the world upon which you
live is not one of random actions, of non-consequential decisions.  To some
the world is merely a playground in which to revel it up and then cease to
be.  The behavior of such individuals may appear to be iniquitous while the
soul has yet to reject spirit, for it does not know what spirit is that it
could reject it.
      
There are truly capable ministers on high who can tend to misguided souls
and offer guidance.  The greatest import to each one of you is the progress
of your own soul, that you seek truth and beauty and goodness, and that as
you expand your spiritual reality, as you magnify your own divine presence,
you will become a beacon of light illuminating other souls who are confused.
Such luminosity is also a protection of your soul if there should ever be
one iniquitous in your presence, for the light is disturbing. Those who
misunderstand will taste the light and become curious and hungry. Those who
reject the light will recoil and flee.
      
I hope this addresses your question.

Interfaith Cooperation.
      
Question #4:  Do you see the interfaith groups, those groups who were formed
from different religious faiths to improve something in the community, as
the primary organizers of the proposed co-creative design teams and their
role in sustainability?

Monjoronson:  I do.  While it is of great benefit to the progress of harmony
and cooperation among all peoples on Urantia that various groups work
together, I also admire and honor the diversity of each group, for all
groups address the needs of particular personalities and minister to them in
ways by which other groups are not organized to do so.  Just as any well
integrated system functions precisely because it has distinct elements
within it that provide specific functions that in the whole cause the system
to effect actions and accomplish work, so it is that these diverse groups
are able to create an enlarged system in which much good can be brought to
humankind.  The strength of each is offered to the whole.  There are the
corps of angels who are specifically attuned to these interworkings.
     
You have witnessed such interfaith groups in your religious circles.  There
are other such interconnections within your economic realms and your social
realms as well.  Such coordinations are proving beneficial.  As humankind
leaves its eras of tribal divisions and clan warfare, even on the level of
nations, and begins to trust in interworking with one another, there will
develop those connections with religion, science, economics, and society.
You will have an even higher co-creative structure.  It will be another
quantum leap in your ascent as a planet to light and life.
      
Again I thank you.

     

The Urantia Book as Evolutionary Religion.

      
Question#5:  Do you view the present use of The Urantia Book as somewhat
rigid, that is, using it more like scripture to knock down alternative
interpretations of what the book teaches?
      
In other words does it appear that many Urantia Book readers are becoming
more doctrinaire than carriers of truth by example?
      
Isn't this habit nothing really more than the revelation in this book form
becoming central to some type of evolutionary religion?

Monjoronson:  This tendency is present within humankind as is witnessed by
the religions following any great sage or prophet in times past.  When human
beings encounter truth re-presented or organized in a clearer statement
there is the tendency to grab that and indoctrinate it such that the essence
be not lost.  However when the essence is imprisoned in rigid form it loses
its power, and there follows the parroting of the wording that expressed the
truth with little realization of its reality and a weakened impact upon
one's living that truth.
      
When revelation is expressed upon a world it endeavors to overlay a pattern
that indicates the higher levels of spirit being, of universe reality.  This
pattern is always adapted to the realm upon which the revelation is given.
There will always be elements missing which in subsequent ages would be more
fitting to reveal.
      
Some look upon all expressions of revelation as merely suggestions and go by
their own way in discovering truth.  This bodes well for some who are well
skilled in discernment and are highly attuned to the divine presence's
guidance.  But many, far many, benefit from the patterns expressed in
revelation and do well to adopt those structures to the extent that they
assist the soul in attaining greater attunement to the divine presence and
greater sensitivity to eternal truth.
      
There will be those who will develop a religious structure out of even The
Urantia Papers, and there will be others who will miss the impact of its
presentation by dismissing it as yet another book of words, good in intent,
but less that of guidance and more that of mere suggestion.  They will
weaken its impact upon themselves and will miss many great benefits that
could be derived from comprehending the pattern revealed in its pages.  Let
us continue.

Philip:  The questioner seems to think that The Urantia Book is really
becoming central to some sort of evolutionary religion.
      
Question#7:  Would you care to characterize the type of evolutionary
religion it may be heading towards? Is this trend at all typical of what has
been experienced in other epochal revelations elsewhere in similar planetary
stages as to what Urantia is currently experiencing in its cultural
development?

Monjoronson:  Indeed this evolutionary development of a revelation is
repeating what has happened to revelations of the past.  It is human nature
that such developments occur.  This current presentation, The Urantia
Papers, while broad in its presentation regarding mankind and the planet and
the universe in which the planet resides and the deity over this universe
which has made all things possible, has its own time limitations and
locality constraints.   It will by such limitations end up being another
step in the path to light and life.  It will never be the all-said of what
is to come and what is to be realized.  And that is where developing it into
a rigid doctrine will infuse error into the comprehension of its message.
      
It entered your world in one language, and many devout humans are
translating it; it was not given already in many languages.  It entered your
world in one culture, and it is up to the individuals who embrace its
message to re-culturalize it and present it around the world in forms
apprehensible by other peoples.  This is a natural evolution, perhaps better
said, a natural integration into the diversity of human beings and cultures
on Urantia.
      
Since human beings tend to form religion around revelation, eventually even
this the fifth epochal revelation will run its course and lose its immediate
effectiveness as many of the others of centuries past have.  But worry not,
for there will subsequently be bestowed upon your world the next revelation
of epochal significance.  In the meantime I encourage each of you to develop
your channel of revelatory receptivity, for under the umbrella of any
epochal revelation are the many revelations to the individual souls, to the
philosophers, the theologians, the scientists, and all.  This is the true
vital power functioning in any epoch.  It will verify the patterns revealed,
and it will enlighten the truth expressed.
      
Thank you again for your inquiry.

Philip:  So, in essence it's not either/or, revelatory or evolutionary; it's
more like it's either/and.  Correct?

Monjoronson:  Yes, indeed.  Revelation is a push, and evolution is the
moving forward.  To some it may seem to lessen its special qualities, but
functionally this must occur for it to integrate into the cultures of the
world.

Question #8:  Will the Magisterial Mission address this trend for The
Urantia Book becoming more like a text for some evolutionary religion and
make adjustments on Urantia to make it more attractive to cultures outside
of western traditions?

Monjoronson:  Yes, I have somewhat addressed that in a prior response to the
question earlier.  We will in no way ever prevent the free-souled creature
from crystallizing revelation into a religious form; that is one's free will
to do so.  And it is another aspect of the universal expression of the
Supreme Being in all creatures.  But we will always look to those souls who
have derived from those pages the universal perspective, the cosmic
consciousness, who can function with us in advancing the world.
    
The development of the planet is truly a journey.  There are many who are
tour guides, advanced souls who can assist others down the path and move
along with them.  There are those who are the scouts who move on way ahead
of the general movement and discover many things and encounter many perils.
Those scouts may at times bring great assistance in providing direction as
the world evolves and at other times encounter obstacles and offer misguided
direction and cause the planet a detour.
      
But besides scouts and guides there are also what I will call the
³innkeepers², those who take care of the travelers at waystations along the
way.  You may liken this to the development of a religion, a church, a
doctrine, the crystallization of the expression of revelation, for in these
waystations a weary traveler may find stability, calmness, rest, and even
rejuvenation as well as support.
      
But a living soul, one seeking truth, when the morning comes will rise again
and take its journey forward toward higher levels of comprehension and
higher ways of living.  We will ever be looking to the scouts that we may
safeguard their investigations and encourage the discovery of higher ways.
We will also ever assist those who are of immediate ministry to their
fellows, the guides, for you are the ones who are taking care of your
brethren, and their welfare is as important as yours, in my view.  We will
also be caring and loving towards those innkeepers who hold a standard of
truth that others may attain.  While they may not progress themselves, they
are still of great assistance to their fellows, and we will also be equally
supportive of their efforts.
      
Thank you for this question.

Question#9: Is the development of a second revelatory commission partly in
response to The Urantia Book becoming something that it was not intended to
become, namely, a symbol for reform kept too exclusive for its purpose to be
easily realized?

Monjoronson:  This secondary revelatory commission is part of the natural
plan of the whole revelatory effort.  It is not in existence so much because
of the reactions of human beings; it is a subsequent phase of the initial
commission which established the statements preserved in your Urantia
Papers.  This commission, the second commission, is functioning to diversify
the statements, not in meaning, but in its asimil-ability to the various
peoples of Urantia, for as you have indicated, it is western in its initial
presentation.  Just as Jesus was Michael's revelation to Urantia, his Spirit
of Truth may be likened to the second commission of his revelation.  When he
stood upon the world he spoke great truths, many recorded and many in
existence today, but when he left and the Spirit of Truth was bestowed every
individual could pursue the way of the master, could follow him.  This
created great diversity in the gospel of Jesus.  This diversity is not an
indication of scattered-ness; it is a revelation of individuality, of the
divine manifested in each.
     
So the second commission regarding the Urantia revelation may be likened to
this secondary input of Michael to the form first of Jesus and second his
Spirit of Truth.
      
I hope this illumines your question.

    
Question #10:  We are guessing that the Magisterial Mission will become the
oversight agency for revelation on Urantia after the mission's appearance
here.  Will the Magisterial Mission become the sole administration for
decisions to provide The Urantia Book to future Urantians?
     
How would you characterize the Magisterial Mission's role in coordinating
contemporary episodes of revelation to Urantia?

Monjoronson:  I must first make clear that this Magisterial Mission and any
subsequent Magisterial Mission to your world is one to prepare transition to
another era of planetary development.  So the management we overlay upon the
progress of humankind is only that which is preparatory to the transition.
It is not our focus to establish behavioral patterns, organizations, or
perspectives. While you as a planetary race make decisions and develop
organizations and societies and other groupings, we will work within those
structures to foster growth, all with the goal of attaining a status wherein
you may transition into a new era.
      
We will not manage how The Urantia Papers will spread across the world.  I
may liken it to the waiter who brings a meal to your table.  That waiter
delivers the dish and walks away.  You must do the consuming of the food.
This waiter may return and ask how it is.  Your response may be likened to
either the crystallization of the revelation as dogma, the rejection of it
as untrue, or the acceptance of it as truly divine.
      
But this waiter will also return and offer you desserts, or a subsequent
phase of your dining experience; that is what I am here to do, to offer you
the next course in the meal with the eye that this next course will be
complementary to the course in which you are engaged.
      
I hope this addresses your question.

Scope of the Fifth Epochal Revelation
      
Question #11:  Does the Correcting Time as Michael's umbrella of policies
for the reformation of Urantia contain more than just the Fifth Epochal
Revelation to do this?

Monjoronson:  Indeed it does, for Michael's purposes on Urantia entail every
phase of planetary development.  These epochal revelations are keyed to
every epoch.  In your text you have been told of the seven basic stages of
planetary development.  There will be subsequent epochal revelations until
Light and Life when the planet itself will stand as a revelation of the
goodness of God and the culture will radiate the divine spirit in all ways.
     
While Michael partook of the force in his bestowal, he has been ever
watchful of all epochal transitions and the developments within each epoch.
I might add that he is doing so upon many worlds.  There are also such
stages we may liken to epochal eras on a planet on every system and
constellation under his guidance.  Our Sovereign Son is quite busy and
engaged in many facets of growth in Nebadon.  His management is broad, but
he is also very concerned and lovingly engaged in every stage on every world
as it unfolds. 

Philip:  We have one final question but I think you covered a lot of that.
So that concludes this portion of the question and answer session.  As is
our custom, we would like to allow time for you to use for any purpose you
might have.  Thank you.

Monjoronson:  I will make a concluding statement. As we have spoken quite a
bit today regarding the impact of an epochal revelation upon a world and
what may subsequently occur as that revelation becomes integrated into
cultures, I want to encourage each of you to be trusting of the divine
presence that resides within, for this is the true light which lights every
man who comes into the world.  It is the source of verification and
validation of what you encounter in any epochal manifestation of spiritual
revelation.
      
Just as one, centuries ago, could look upon Jesus and say, "Behold the man",
expressing that within him the spirit moved and could recognize what was,
who was, standing before him, so you must look upon the revelations that
come in your era with such an inner recognition.
      
A pattern has been overlaid upon your world in which you may organize your
thinking, your understanding, and your vision of the future.  But you are
each free to express your personality.  Again I take you back to the fourth
epochal revelation of Michael as Jesus and point to his apostles, both the
male corps and the women's corps and the associated personalities with them.
Each one had its own perspective.  When Jesus left the world each one
undertook their own form of ministry.  Some forms became the religion that
followed him, and other forms went on to merely impact single peoples in a
perhaps non-historic way.
      
Trust the presence within.  Do what you can in your understanding of the
revelation presented to your world.  Remember it¹s presented to the world in
whole, in its entirety, and you are to adapt yourself to the aspects you can
best express through your comprehension and through your life.  Others will
grasp other aspects of the revelation and bring luminosity and magnification
to those teachings.  The only form of revelation worth crystallizing is the
form of revelation within yourself as it becomes your soul.
      
Thank you again for your questions.  You are truly my beloved brethren.  I
cherish the time to be in fellowship with you all.

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Hayden, Idaho


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