[tmtranscripts] FW: 97 Monjoronson - Spiritual Death - Personality - Anthropomorphism - Apr 20, 2010 - Audio Session #97

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Monjoronson - Spiritual Death - Personality - Anthropomorphism - Apr 20,
2010 - Audio Session #97
Subject: Monjoronson.com  Session #97


 Subjects Discussed this Session:
 *Spiritual Death
*Path to Truth
*Personality
*Corporate Guests
*Anthropomorphism

T/R: Henry Zeringue
Moderator: Philip
April 20, 2010


Prayer: Father we thank you for your light; we thank you for it's wisdom; we
thank you for it's clarity, it's crispness, it's ability to reveal all
things. Father we thank you to be in-circuited in this light this evening,
to the light and energy of Nebadon and into the space of Monjoronson.

Monjoronson: Greetings, thank you this evening. Again we are here to shed a
little light on the questions and concerns which people on Urantia have
requested. Again, we thank you for the network which is able to make this
happen and to all of the people that participate in the functioning of these
question and answer sessions and the postings on the website as well as the
audio files and all of the staff associated with Monjoronson.com. Again we
thank you and we are here tonight ready to begin.

Spiritual Death

Preamble:

[From the Urantia Book]: "This kind of death is final in its significance
irrespective of the temporary continuation of the living energies of the
physical and mind mechanisms. From the cosmic standpoint the mortal is
already dead; the continuing life merely indicates the persistence of the
material momentum of cosmic energies."

Question #1: I always wonder if a person that would die a spiritual death
would have survived if they had lived on a normal evolutionary planet not
stained by rebellion?

Question #2: Can you explain what the mortal would have to embrace to be
deemed worthy of eternal death?

Question #3: If a mortal embraces iniquity does that mean that this mortal
has full knowledge of his/her actions and yet still pursues a course of
cosmic insanity?

Monjoronson: Referring to question #1: Thank you. This sounds more like a
statement rather than a question. Let's go to question #2.

Monjoronson: There is nothing worthy about eternal death. Spiritual death is
a complete waste of resource, a vine that has produced no fruit once it
withers and dies. All humans in the Universe of Nebadon as well as humans
here on Urantia have a choice. Humans of the Adjuster series, even on a
rebellion planet, have access to greater awareness of truth. The human is
allowed to make a choice; the human is even allowed to make erroneous
choices; humans are even allowed to make erroneous devastating and
disastrous choices. No personality in the spiritual universe is allowed in
any way to manipulate a humans will choice. Even on a planet such as this
with it's Agondonter-like status, humans can exercise choices which benefit
spiritually and therefore eternity. One of the greatest constituents found
in spiritual death are extremely strong and selfish egos. Again, thank you
for this question.

Monjoronson: Referring to question #3: Again, refer to the previous answer.
Humans are allowed to make their own free will decisions. Iniquity implies
consciousness even though that consciousness may be perverted to a selfish
and personal agenda having nothing to do with either the overall benefit to
the person or the people that the person comes to contact, or spiritual
agents. On your world there are iniquitous people. Again, thank you for this
question.

Path to Truth

Question #4: There are those who, if I may use your expressions, "hang their
shingle" and teach a way to truth and we accept these personalities so
inspired to do so. However, I'm still confused. Is there absolute reality
truth? Can error in my own thought prevent me accessing the truth I seek?

Monjoronson: This is a very good question. Thank you for this question. One
must think of truth as a spherical phenomenon. In other words, think of
truth as an orange. Inside the orange is truth. It matters not at what point
on the surface of the orange it is penetrated, you will get the truth. This
is why there are many paths. In a certain sense your own soul is spiritual.
Inside of your soul is the Adjuster, the Father element of truth. You are on
the outside of this gigantic sphere and wherever you penetrate and go
within, there you will find truth. It is nothing to be confused about. If
you really want to know something, ask, ask the Father. You must first
believe in the reality of the Father and you must trust that what you ask
will get a response and then you must become conscious for the answer to
appear because the answer may not appear like you would want it to appear.
The answer may appear however it appears. Your perception to it will become
alerted and you will go aha; this is my answer.

[Henry] Note: In essence there is absolute truth. On an evolutionary world,
there is the slightest reference to absolute truth. Until you live in
absolute reality, you cannot really experience absolute truth. Here on
Urantia you experience truth according to your capacity to understand and
reference truth. Truth cannot surpass man's consciousness on this reality
level.
 
Personality

Preamble: The word origin for personality is personae, the Greek word for
mask.

Personality is described in the Urantia Book as being gifted to
mortals...the Thought Adjuster is described as "pre-personality". This
individual has taken personality evaluations that describe types such as
extrovert/introvert, sensing/intuitive, thinking/feeling, judging/perceiving
etc. We are all mixtures of these basic traits.

Question #5: How much of our personality is actually gifted from First
Father pre-birth and how much could be described as acquired during our
experiential journey here and do personality trait types survive such as
introvert/extrovert etc?

Monjoronson: Very good question. A person that would ask this type of
question is a person that reads and studies a lot. You should search a
little deeper for the answer and while you are searching, I will say that
the . . . Father provides 100% of the personality. The personality
[provided] . . . is not the emotional personality, it is not he emotional
human traits of a human being. What the Father provides are the unchangeable
elements within a human's consciousness, the way he thinks, the way he
operates, who he or she is becoming. It is possible to become complete in
this lifetime though very few humans completely attain full personality
development before Adjuster fusion. Even after Adjuster fusion there are
aspects to the personality which become glorified but that is another time
and another place, another life.

Here on Urantia it is important to understand that personality provides
strength of character, strength of wisdom and discernment, strength and
ability to make decisions, the strength and ability to take responsibility
for who you are, how you think, what you think about, how you act, how you
co-ordinate your thinking and your act. These are the things that the
personality provides [you]. [Your personality] is not "Its" personality for
[the Adjuster] has no personality. The Thought Adjuster is a pre-personal
aspect of the Father. You are given an Adjuster which has a personality
program, especially for you.  The human/Adjuster series type is provided,
volunteered actually, and time is spent in the Divinington schools in
personality training.  At the time the personality is received [by the
human] the Adjuster then indwells the human around the age of reason, five
to six years old on Urantia time. This is not to say that in the development
of human character there are not emotional conditions and situations which
must be brought under control but these have nothing to do with personality.
Emotional conditions and situations become refined as the personality begins
to define itself. Not all personalities are the same. Each personality is
custom designed for an individual. Again we thank you for these questions.

[Henry] NOTE: The Adjuster brings a personality program, which is being
revealed to the indwelt individual, This program has greater effect with an
Adjuster who has experience with the personality program. This is all. The
personality of the human subject is gradually acquired through the
coordinated effort of both the Thought Adjuster and the human subject.
 
Question #6: Do experienced Adjusters acquire personality traits from the
beings they indwell that carry over to the next mortal to contribute to that
partnership?

Monjoronson: Thanks for this question. No, the Adjusters do not provide
left-over personality from the human that did not use them. What an
experienced Adjuster provides, is the ability to work with the personality
and the human mind, to have experience of working within the human species;
Adjusters gather experience. It is much like a human learning co-ordination
skills. The more you do it the better you get at it. The same is true for
these Adjusters; they learn a  persistence, a persistence that is stronger
than the persistence exhibited by the human subject. Experienced Adjusters
have a way it seems, to present information to a human mind that is more
exact and precise, less obscure. So these are the things that the Adjuster
brings. A lost personality is a disappointment to everyone but that is what
it is, a lost personality; it doesn't exist anymore. As I previously said,
personalities are custom designed for the particular human, a genetic and
mental makeup is taken into consideration. All aspects of the human are
taken into consideration, the sex, before the personality is refined. Again,
thank you for this question.

Corporate Guests

Preamble: You said, Monjoronson, that "there are many designers." There are
cosmic corporate beings that compete for your business, but they are
operating in a different value system so they seek to share rather than sell
you something. There are vendors, cosmic vendors, who want to make contact
with you...."

Question #7: Should we just be ourselves when it comes to the universe
designers and group observers who may seek to influence us?

Monjoronson: Yes

Question #8: To what extent is it to our benefit to accept such influences?

Monjoronson: There is no limit as to what a human can achieve.

Anthropomorphism

I would like to invite you to discuss the dangers of the
anthropomorphization of spiritual concepts. Is there a certain benefit to
"humanizing" spiritual concepts to be able to grasp their import to us?

Monjoronson: Precisely. The Urantia text is a precise spirit designed text.
Especially in the T/R¹ing process, it is important to bring truth down to a
more human level to be able to attract more people, to be able to speak to
the less willing to understand but having the same needs to believe and
understand even as those who do understand. What becomes grotesque in the
human anthropomorphizations in describing God with human characteristics,
should not at all be confused with spirits putting truths in simple human
terms using human metaphors. It is necessary for spirit to do this, it is
necessary because spirit has multiple ability and tasks to communicate in
various and multiple ways and means. Therefore it is necessary to be
specific to the species to which you are talking and communicating.

Again, it is more grotesque, the human anthropomorphizations of Deity, and
these should not be confused with spirit's bringing truths and awareness
down to a human level using human metaphors to do so. In actuality, spirit
necessarily has to bring information to the species it is communicating
with. Spirit has multiple ability to communicate with many species. Again,
thank you for this question.

Philip: Thank you for your responses Monjoronson. That concludes our
question and answers for the evening. If there are any comments additionally
that you would care to make please be our guest.

Monjoronson: No comments at this time. Thank you.

Philip: Thank you and good evening.


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