[tmtranscripts] Michael 10.19.2010

[JERRY LANE]

Dear Kathy and everyone,  Please excuse my losing track of this devoted work of transcription by Kathy.  I intended to edit it to my own more familiar syntax, sentencing, and paragraphing but haven't found the time; plus it is mostly understandable as it is.  I enjoyed reading it and I think it answers some questions about Michael's abilities to respond, that occurred to one of the participants.  So thanks again, Kathy.  JL       
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Kathleen L. Huntley<mailto:nox2386 at blackfoot.net> 
  To: JERRY LANE<mailto:nytrayn at msn.com> 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 6:40 AM
  Subject: Sept 30/Transmission:




  Here it is Jerry - Oh my!  It took forever...   Cheers!   Kath








  -SUBJECT:  LIGHTLINE TELECONFERENCE
              SEPTEMBER 30, 2010
   
  TEACHER:  MICHAEL
   
   
  T/R:  JERRY LANE
   
   
   
  Dear Michael and Mother Spirit, dear Devine Parents, dear old friends welcome, welcome, always welcome.   I am always inclined to say “Come be with us and then I realize you are already here, you are always here so let me make that - help us be aware of your presence.     Help us be aware that you are already, and always have been a part of our lives, literally a part of us.  
           Michael you are the spirit of truth: that orientation to this wonderful curiosity of wondering what is this?  What is true here in this moment?  This orientation towards an unfolding adventure that you reassure us, and help us accept  this unfolding reality that has no end.   Mother Spirit your holy spirit is literally part of us.   Dimensions of our own intrinsic abilities of intuition, to just being to know things immediately, without any intermediaries.   Then to accumulate this sole wealth of knowledge, and to correlate all that knowledge, a thousand ways and understanding.   The courage to do what is difficult– if you fear, anxiety, uncertainty, pain.  The courage to attempt what is difficult in your holy spirit of counsel that helps that innate ability we have to know others and to be known.   That ability of yours to help us be aware of, and appeal to spirit to appreciate the creation and through that our love and appreciation of the Creator in worship.  And the final ability of ours, that you use so greatly, the ability of all of this to really gather together our soul-wealth and wisdom.   For this dear parents we thank you for being a part of us and a part of our lives.    Amen
   
   
  Michael:   Dear children, dear friends, this is Michael.   And yes we thank you for your greeting for we are indeed a part of you.   This is our glory.   This is our wonder at being a creator son and creator daughter of God.   That we have such companions such dear friends as yourselves.    It helps us honor and appreciate ourselves, our father’s creativity.   That he created such beings as you.   That he endows you with not only your own unique personalities.   Every one of you unique, unique in all the creation. But also he has endowed you with his creative spirit. This absolute power that literally brings something out of nothing.   It gives you this potential to be free.   You are a personal being, not an impersonal energy or object.  You are not bound by antecedent causality simply that which came up to this moment but in this moment, in this eternal now our Father shares with you creativity.   And it literally comes right out of you.   
           Just as God is like one of those surreal paintings of yours.   Like a fountain out in the middle of the air bursting forth.    So you are also a lot of little fountains like Mother Spirit   and myself.   Like all personal beings of thousands of different orders.    This is what personality is.   It is an intrinsic part of nature of personality.  For as we have taught there is no impersonal spirit abroad in the universe.   Spirit is a creative power of a personal being.    So this very creation itself, as the creation itself points at a creator, a first cause, so it also points at this nearly limitless creation of personal beings.    It points at this absolute reality of personality itself.    What it is to be a personal being.    If it helps your philosophy, think of this as a primal division of reality into impersonal reality.  Energy and material that are based strict cause and effect as you have chased it now right down into the subatomic realm and the nono-second of continuity and still haven’t reached any bottom, or top or sides.   But it obeys the absolute causality of God’s will. It is impersonal.  It is!   And from one moment to the next it is utterly predictable, if as yet beyond your science.   For also your science, your understanding of this continuity has no limits.          
           When you get to a personal being you are getting to a creation of Gold’s.    A being that he is endowed with an ability of his own to create and therefore, as he ordained it, this being is now free.    This being, you, are capable of coming right up out of yourselves with something that gives you a choice.   You have everything, all that has led up to this moment this eternal now.    But in this eternal now you have this potential, this possibility to originate something out of yourself, out of your own uniqueness.    That exists, that has existed, nowhere else up to this moment.   And, to the very degree you can realize this creativity, you can have some choice, some alternative, in addition to that is simply is already.    This is the power he has endowed you with.   This is what it is to be a spiritual being. This is your essence my children.   
           You are a spiritual being and whether you are consciously aware of it or not you are co-creating your experiences of reality.   Moment by moment, in this eternal now, you have not only what has led up to this moment, in a sense what you have created and what you have been presented with all through your life.    In this moment you have the potential for something new.    This is the essence of freedom.   This is the essence of your, we say ‘your relative autonomy” within the cosmos.   Because it is not yet for you - unlimited.   You are starting out on an eternal adventure.   You are just beginning to grow a soul.   You are just beginning to accumulate  experience.  But, you are not necessarily bound even by your own experience.  By your own understanding.    You are co-creating your experience along with all of that out there, all that is not you.   You are very complex beings my children (laughter).  Unlike some other orders of personal beings you have a physical body.   A living physical body that is an infinity to you.   It is your experience of this body is also co-creation.    You are aware of how it changes.   Sometimes moment to moment with excitement, fear, anxiety, delight.    All your sciences and all your libraries have not yet plumbed the depths of this living tabernacle in which you dwell, is composed of.   And for each single one of you as you live, as your body changes, so your experience of it changes.   So we often say you have a body/mind because they are so totally inter-related.  So co-dependent.   How your mind reacts influences how you perceive your body and vice versa.   What you do with your body, what you put into your body so profoundly affects your mental state and abilities. And so as a spiritual being you are not only presented moment to moment with this body/mind of yours it is how you are interpreting this, what value you give it.   
           What value you perceive and recognize and really are creating in your life.   This is spirit.   It is spirit, your spirit, that evaluates your life moment to moment.   If you think about it this is incessant.    Moment by moment you are evaluating what is happening to you.   What you are doing.   So, strictly from the standpoint of your personality, even your own body and mind, is somewhat other.   It is not entirely yet under your full realization and control.   This is another aspect of your growth.    As it gets some control, some realization, some unification, even of your own body and mind and they are not unlimited either in extent or duration.   This very body and mind that connects you with its perceptions to the rest of the world,  will go.  Your only lasting possession is your soul.    This is wealth of experience you are accumulating.   
           You are growing.   But it too is a gigantic reality my children.   That is co-authored by the presence of God within you.    So, even your own soul is an infinity to you.   You really have to sit down and suspend all the rest of the world just to enjoy a few moments of pure soul of pure reliving, as if for the very first time some other part of your life.    And so your soul is a spiritual construct so much greater than you might say, just your physical memories.   Your soul is the fullness within your memories.    And you do not fully realize your own soul until you become one with its co-author.   Until you become one with the presence of God within you.  
           Now if you think of how you grew into life starting as a little baby.   Then for how many years you weren’t even aware of this body and mind of yours. You weren’t aware of having teeth and a tongue and chewing.   You were just absorbed in the food.    You hardly were aware of those little hands reaching out.   You were more interested in those toys and those things to get hold of.  You weren’t aware of your feet, you were just aware of being able to move around, to run over here and there.    It might have taken some of you years and years to be aware of mirrors and that person over there.    That person who made you aware you had a body. And the mind was just a tool you used.   And how limited it was at first because is all collapsed from time to time.   Try as your best the whole world just collapsed, fell all apart, some terrible terrible aching thing and then you sat there bawling until you could slowly, ever so slowly catch your breath and start again.    Little by little you became aware of yourself.   You got this “self-conscious self”.    Your ego began to grow.   All of a sudden there was a “Me” in your reality.    And there was all of a sudden a “mine” in your reality.   This is “mine”.   For even little fishes can be possessive of their accumulations. Even birds can be territorial.     
           So, indeed you are a very complex being (laughter).    Some say this is a curse but what a gift it is.   Mind, Body, Spirit, Soul, Ego.    And how your personality can identify with each in turn or all together.    And so you see my children how it is not only the evolution of culture all over the world, all those hundreds, even thousands of little mini-cultures all over the world not only that but the evolution of your own life.   How difficult it is, at times, to convince people - persons, you – that human beings are spiritual beings.    They are co-creating their own experience of life and to that degree responsible for what is happening to them.   When so many live in an agony, so much suffering based on not realizing this is a very fundamental fact of human reality.   To not only they, but also every one of those that they come in contact with, is another spiritual being, another unique personality created by God.          To be able to respond to all that you are and all that is happening to you is indeed humbling, is it not?   All that encompasses you.   All that has its affect upon you.   All that you yourself are constantly creating.    Your attitude towards all of that and your interpretation of all of that.   All that you are and have been.   What a miracle!  
           What an amazing thing this life of yours is.  But this then is a spiritual blessing of humility, of being able to be aware of all of this.  Even Mother Spirit and I are somewhat in the same situation.    We too must humbly acknowledge and thank our Father for even being able to perceive, to be aware of this encompassing of his that is an infinity in every direction and every dimension.   And the very fact that here we are.   Moment by moment.   Every moment we are complete, as all the rest of his creation,  and yet by his will what you call ‘time’.   This eternal now is in motion and here comes another moment and another, like it or not.   This is his will and here it comes.    To welcome this will of his.   To welcome, even to enjoy and appreciate and worship this creation of his.    Me and you – and each other.   
           This is our responsibility.   This is our blessing to be able to grow this innate desire, this innate ability to respond.   Especially to each other.   We acknowledge that only God is responsible for the creation for only he has that ultimate, even the absolute and infinite ability to respond to all that is.   
           Still we can reach out to him.  We can orient ourselves towards this truth, this adventure this unfolding and say, “Thank you dear father – thank you for me - that I am.  Thank you for this adventure that you lay out for me”.    On into an unending infinity of you to discover, to grow.    And so thank you my dear children, my dear friends for coming along with me on this ride.   This appreciation of all that we are, even beyond our ability moment to moment to understand.   The strange, magnificent reality in which we are a part of our own encompassing.   Now if you have any questions or comments this evening I am always glad to have some conversations with my friends.    
   
   
  Q#1:   Does that include all of us Lord?   Can we ask a question too?
   
  Michael:   Oh absolutely 
   
  Q#1.  Thank you.   I would like to know, if I may, how does Spirit see and hear and smell?   Do we have the ability to have our spirit see, hear and smell just as we can sometimes read each other’s minds if we are sort-of advanced, or are we truly engaged with another person we can perhaps do what spirit can do?  Perhaps even more deeply now?    Can we develop that ability?
    
  Michael: My daughter there is no limit that can be put upon personality.   This essential reality that you are, this unique being that you are, neither in extent nor duration.   As long as you are associated with this body/mind in this first life of yours, there are limitations.    There are – these limitations are with respect to what you can grow into.   At each moment, as I tried to express this evening, there is - you are facing a kind of infinity of what you can do.   So, all this is an unfolding, even of your own potential.  The way you put it ‘ you don’t know what you can do until you try’.    That is a rather broad answer, but there is no way to pin down, and that is a blessing, what all of your capabilities are.    You just have to try and then be really honest with yourself as to what the results of this experiment were.     
   
  Q. Yes, I see.   Thank you – thank you so much.

   
  Michael:   Let me throw you a challenge.
   
  Q. OK

   
  Michael:   This will be with you forever so you might as well get used to it.   The greatest challenge of any personal being, in your relating with our father, is to open yourself in prayer and meditation, and ask of yourself and of the whole spiritual community, ‘what is the best thing to do next?’   That is kind of scary is it not?   It is also opens a door to potential.    It is truly humbling.   
   
  Q.    I will do it.   What is the best thing to do next after prayer and meditation?   OK – Thank You.

   
  Michael:  In prayer and meditation – yes.
   
  Q#1: In prayer and meditation
   
  Michael:  One of the most sincere prayers you can ask of yourself and of the presence of God within you and you can do it anytime.  Be conscious of it.
   
  Q. Uh huh Wonderful, Thank you

   
  Michael:   You are welcome my daughter.  Be in my Peace.
   
  Q#1:   If no one else has another question I have one more.

   
  Michael:   Sure
   
  Q#1: OK – The woman who touched your hand received energy.   The same we are to give out to uplift people.   But, she was a believer.  Is that paradigm necessary?   Must the person be a believer before they get the greatest transmission of our own energy?   Is – or is that not necessarily the formula  to best help and save souls?   Can we have one formula for that?  I guess what I am asking is can I still plant the seed in a non-believer that did the same thing as when that women touched your hem.   Can we still give that energy or does she or he have to there to receive it with a certain willingness to believe, a certain faith?   Or do we have so much to give to them and overcome what they don’t have?
   
  Michael:   Well now my dear you are asking the very nature of love itself.  
   
  Q#1: Yes
   
  Michael:  Love can just be a total ‘beam me out’ of well wishing towards another.   That will affect them, but not always consciously.    Think of the difference between belief and faith.  Belief is a kind of a construct within you. It is like you have your own personal philosophy of life.   It is what you are doing your best, moment to moment to understand all of reality.   What you believe is true.   But, by that very nature it is a time/space construct that hopefully, is capable of growth, evolution.    Faith is the ability to extend yourself beyond belief.    That is why it is so closely allied to courage.    It is so closely allied to power.   It gives you an ability.  And, so it is more or less your faith in the very power of love that enables you to beam this power out.   This good wishing toward someone else and then faith is rewarded in fact.  Something happens.  Faith is a unique power that lets you do things beyond your belief.   It is not a suspension of belief; it is a going beyond belief.   Then it is rewarded in actuality.   Something actually happens because of this faith that nothing else can do.  And it is a very special reward.    So, yes, by all means, your faith in the power of love.   In your own sincere, good intentions – again there is limit again how that can affect someone else.   Because they have, in addition to what ever they believe, they have the presence of God within them.   They have a personality – and they can recognize a kindred soul – irrespective of their belief.   It simply helps when then their belief system, if you will, has this possibility within it.   It makes it easier for them to recognize the love you are sending them.  But, the love you are sending them and its affect is not dependent upon their belief.   If their belief is such that you can help them recognize what you are doing that reward is that much greater for both of you.    But, as you love, and as that love has an effect, so it can help them – so shall we say, evolve their own beliefs.   
   
  Q#1: Excellent.   Thank you so much.   I love you Michael.
   
  Michael:  Thank you my daughter.   Mother Spirit and I can feel that.   That is part of our glory is to feel that love. 
   
  Q#1:   I am glad.
   
  Q#2:  How are you doing today?
   
  Michael:   Hello – Go ahead.
   
  Q#2:    I bring you greetings.   Thank you for the work you do.  I am so grateful and appreciate your blessings to our lives and I am really desirous to see that many more people get to tap into the ministry of the Teaching Mission and I know that it is becoming a reality.   More and more people are becoming aware of monjoronson.com and TM Archives.    It is a beautiful thing you know.    I just wanted to say thank you for the great work you and your team – you know – Machiventa, Monjoronson and the others, Mother Spirit and so many others involved in this massive work.   Sometimes it seems to some of us the progress is so slow that change on the planet is so slow.   I would like to say one or two things to encourage such individuals and sometimes, some Light workers tend to get saddened by the forces of evil.   They feel the forces of evil are so strong and it is so difficult to push for change, for positive, progressive changes in government, in politics, in religion and in every area of life.  Even in material prosperity, because … in poverty in different parts of the world.   And few people have so much money.    The Light workers get tempted to feel, ‘this is so difficult, I’m not going to see this wonderful, positive changes of prosperity, material prosperity, righteousness, justice, peace in my lifetime.”   And sometimes it weighs on them.  I would appreciate it if you would give a word or two to encourage such people.   Then, on a different note, if you may choose to talk about it, this idea – this concept of inner earth.   You know life in inner earth.  We have seen planet earth but, in the inside of this orb called Urantia there is this life in existence, many many miles down the surface of planet earth.   Maybe up to 800 miles down.   There is this world  (unknown)…that is used to peak  that denotes this other life when brothers and sisters existing within inner earth.    If you want to talk about it I’d appreciate it. I know for some reason   sometimes some teachers don’t want to talk about it.   I don’t know how you feel about that.    If you want to talk about that.    I am interested in the brotherhood of man on the surface of planet earth and also connecting (unknown)…  other planets and also what exists within planet earth.  If you want to talk about that I’d appreciate that as well.   I will go mute and listen to your comments.    Thank you.    
   
  Michael:   Yes my son. It is always helpful to keep in mind that what you perceive as evil is largely reactive.   It is almost defined by the absence of true creativity.   Of never – of poor human beings never quite coming into this eternal now and experiencing the full power of their own creativity.    Of never touching – never growing and touching an inner spiritual home base.   Of never having this.   So much of what they are doing is coming from a position of fear and of reactivity.  Of feeling somewhat helpless in the stream of events.   So, in a way, lacking that appreciation, that worship, that thankfulness for their life, for all those around them, they are always, as you say, behind the curve, always just a moment too late.   Never being able to feel and accept the responsibility of this co-creation that they are involved in and what is happening to them.   
           What has happened to them is as much their own doing as what appears to them appears simply as ‘what was done to them’.   With this orientation, with this basic philosophy of life and understanding that they are not responsible, they are cutting themselves off from their very own power of genuine creativity.   They, in a sense, make all that fear and apprehension disappear.   It is those who view themselves to be powerless.   They are extremely dangerous because there is no limit what they can do in this feudal (?) – seeking more power ever more power.   If they can’t realize the power they have, that they are responsible for what is happening to them then they have no ability to respond to it.    
           So, keep this in mind.   That is where love is the only thing that can conquer this.   It is your own creativity.   You own being ‘in the moment’ and accepting, welcoming, your own ability to respond.   In a sense it keeps you out of that subtle trap.   This is where you cannot simply respond in kind. Because again, you are merely reacting to their reactionary behavior.    It is your own creativity, your own freedom, from however they are presenting themselves.    It gives you that liberty.   
           Also my son, keep in mind, as you live your day-to-day life, as you come in contact with others, through your power of creativity, love and appreciation and worship, you are literally demonstrating what is possible.    And, so you might perhaps kind of capture their attention, peak their curiosity; get them to wondering about your freedom, and about the fact that you are not merely reacting to them.  The Urantia book calls it a spiritual fragrance that you have.   About your whole being and the way you are handling life.   This is what you are offering to them.   You are, if you will, teasing them out of themselves.    To be spontaneous, to be free, to realize their real power.   You have that rather cynical political maxim that ‘power corrupts – and absolute power corrupts absolutely’.   Which may have a certain validity in political and social, economic realms, but in the spiritual realm my son, absolute power corrupts absolutely no one.     For it is your Saints, your folks who have lived their lives for others that really had the real power.    And so, as they say the challenge is for each one of you as it is for me.   It is not what is the easiest or the hardest but what is the best thing to do next.  
           You can start every day with meditation or a dozen times a day to stop and wonder.   Open yourself – open yourself to your own wisdom and your own love, your own spiritual nature and the presence of God within you.   Dear Father – help me know what is the best thing to do next.  Totally irrespective of whether you can do it or not.   That is the courage of self-honesty is to know the best thing.    Whether you can do it or not!   Then, all the rest of it falls into place.   Then the world is transformed and you see there is no need for patience.   The spiritual evolution of the world is not some slow dragging process.    But the human race is on a roller coaster and always has been.    Things are moving so fast especially now.   You have some poor folks saying “slow down.   Too much, too soon”.  The reactionary.   So open your heart to them my son.   Send them your love.   Realize the pain they are in.    Let your love and this consideration help transform you as well as you hope it will transform them.   And be in my Peace.
   
  Q#1: That was beautiful
   
  Q#2: Well thank you Michael.   Do you want to talk about inner earth?    
   
  Michael:   What is that again? 
   
  Q #2:  Would you want to talk about inner earth?   Life in inner earth?
   
  Michael:  Enoch?
   
  Q#2:  I-N-N-E-R  E-A-R-T-H   Inner Earth.  Life within the planet.  Human life, intelligent life taking place inside planet earth.  …Am I coming clearly to the TR?
   
  Michael:   Excuse me son, I can’t quite understand that. 
  Q#2:  I think it is my unusual accent.  Maybe the TR is not picking it up.  The second part of my comment was about inner earth.   Life within planet earth.  Inside planet earth.  OK…
   
  Michael:   Yes I understand you my son.   To me this is a concept that has a certain validity in a kind of a spiritual way in understanding forces and that.  But there is literally no personal life within the earth.   It is, as your science offers you, the  vision of a – the world is actually a purely impersonal reality.   There is no inner life in that sense beyond that which exists on the surface of the world.   
   
  Q#2:  OK – One of the reasons I brought it up is because in some circles we hear about the Galactic Federation and this idea – or this reported facts that the Galactic Federation …   within inner earth.  So, if you go down through the oceans for example, there are different entry ports.   So, some of the entry ports are through the oceans.   So you go down down further down, away from the surface you can get through an entry port into inner earth as it were.   I have an idea or an illusion of the Galactic Federation …  within the planet earth as it were.
   
  Michael:  Yes my son, I understand the concept now.  But, that is only a symbolic meaning.    It has no actuality in the physical world.  It is literally, as your science is projecting, you go down through a very kind of a surface that is sitting on a molten layer of magma and as you go into the center of the earth it is as your science projects it –you get to a solid core.    Of the heavier materials and such with temperatures greater than the surface of the sun.   Much as your Urantia Book describes it.   But, these are – this is only a combination of what you would call geologic forces.   There is no personal beings other than those on the surface.   
   
  Q#2: I got you.
   
  Q: #1   Michael is it possible that sometimes people can create scenarios through great desire.   You say anything is possible.  But, this might even be counter productive.    Sometimes family members who are grieving firmly believe they see members that have passed on or graduated.   I used to contradict them saying there was no way spirit is going to come back to do something trivial, although I know exceptions can be made if there is an important reason for them to come back shortly after death.   But, I thought they were doing it to themselves to make themselves feel better.  Creating a scenario in their minds, but they insist they really do see people who have recently passed.   I am thinking for instance of my father who recently passed and my sister saying she saw him.   Shall I just let them believe what they need to believe unless I’m asked for my opinion?  Anything is possible but it just makes me feel like I am so wanting to enlighten someone who knows nothing about the Urantia book so – the foundation would be difficult for me to begin to talk to her about why I know they cannot possibly cross over once again after they have graduated.   
   
  Michael:  Yes my daughter.   I think you have a good grasp of the situation.    Without that frame work of understanding about – first of all what the personality is and then with the very psychic circles, what happens to people - different individuals as they die.   Those, which join the ranks of the sleeping survivors, those which you know, are -relatively more quickly find themselves on a Mansion World as they cross over very quickly.    You have to consider them the efficacy, the very purpose then of what you are attempting to do.   If it is not within their belief system, here again, if it is not within their belief system,  you can only make, shall we say, certain suggestions.   But, what is the point?   If your sister has these experiences they have this, what you might call a relative validity for her. What is the point of trying to prove something one way or another if the ability to recognize that that proof is not there?    It would be merely destructive unless it is somehow or another.   This whole sense of dealing with ghosts, which do not exist.   The Urantia book is quite succinct between the unconsciousness of the last moment – right before death and reawakening on the Mansion World.   The personality simply resides with God.   It has no way of manifesting itself.   Without that understanding it is almost pointless to destroy what is a very valid psychological experience.  
   
  Q#1: I can see that now.   Absolutely
   
  Michael:  Here you can simply, if they are open to it, kind of tease, lovingly tease with notions if she is open to exploring this whole realm.   In this case you are merely offering to add to it rather than destroy what is if it is not being destructive to her.  If her belief system is not hurting her in any way – that is just her belief system.  It is a matter of love to acknowledge that.   It is enormous love just letting people be.  Just enjoy them as they are.
   
  Q#1: Yes – enjoying them as they are.   Got it!   Thank you.
   
  Q #3:  Michael?
   
  Michael:  Yes
   
  Q#3: Would you allow me to … further on the previous question.   I think there is a little bit of confusion of what we have been learning from other sources.   I’ll rephrase the question a little bit.    Would there be physical beings of extra-terrestrial origin meaning those not of earth civilization.   Are they somehow influencing our earth in anyway whether they exist in other star systems or they exist in maybe caves or some civilization on earth that we don’t know about?   Would these beings possibly be influencing our civilization in a way that would affect … time or Monjoronson’s Magisterial Mission or the Teaching Mission and things like that.   Do you understand my question?
   
  Michael:   Yes my son.   I take it you are referring not to the spiritual community literally, but to physical beings.   Beings that have some physical ness.  In a sense requires some form of starship or whatever have you to be here.   And no, they are not influencing the course of human events.
   
  Q#3: That would be the question – the broad question.
   
  Michael:    (Laughter) That is it in one sentence.
   
   
  *The Telephone Connection with Caller #4 was not as clear as other connections.   Periodically there was a static that made accurate transcription difficult.  

    

  Q#4: Michael may I ask   something then, maybe on the component that you referred to of the spiritual economy or the spiritual levels of personality who are - The Urantia herself.   The Planetary Supreme Urantia.   The evolutionary – the representative, or the Planetary Supreme who is the evolving actualization of all of our choices who we contribute to bring into our personality level at some future point  beyond light and life.  Could we – Is this our true concept?
   
  Michael: Yes my daughter, there is a manifestation of – The Supreme is that dimension of reality that is a consummation, accumulation of all the personal experiences.   In that sense the Planetary Supreme is an evolving entity that like the Supreme Being is an evolving manifestation of evolving time and space events.   It is contactable, but as it is hard to say how this registers in the human consciousness as something again is an enormous encompassing that is more felt as a presence because if you stop to consider the supreme being of the whole evolution of all of humanity on this planet.   Ever since Andon and Fonta that is something that would have for you, shall we say, a kind of a presence or any kind particularity or specificity within this would be less than what it is.  What I am saying is the Planetary Supreme can only register as a kind of presence beyond that you are getting into some very particular notion of it.   You would be breaking it down into less than what it fully is.  Do you see what I mean?
   
  Q#4: Yes, certainly.  And the glory of being human is in the cosmic circles is to become aware of responsibility, Cosmic responsibility in our own actions and daily actions.    Loving people as they are, loving the work that we do.  Conquering our inclination to wallow in self-pity, observing  evil.   All of those things.   We contribute, if we are wanting to contribute to the supreme as a presence or as anything we can really understand.   We can only really see the Supreme as our little own miniscule contribution.  But we are aware of our contribution.   We are aware of looking around us and seeing the world but, very specifically in one particular spot in time and space and loving that moment – that eternal moment of being able to choose for you in your will and your Father’s will to move that momentary inch toward the realization, the actualization towards the Supreme. 
   
  Michael:   The planetary Supreme is part of the encompassing in which you live.    But it is so far beyond, just like the Supreme Being is so far beyond human comprehension.   As the totality of all human life of all human experience.   All your soul in a sense.   Think of the World Supreme as the World Soul.   As the soul wealth of the planet and all the millions and billions and trillions of human beings have lived this is so far beyond human comprehension, yet it is part of the encompassing in which you do live.   It is part of the spiritual community if you want to look at it that way.  Of all the other spiritual beings that are on the earth.   The Planetary Supreme is some really awesome reality that you can only be aware of in this sense as part of this incomprehensible encompassing in which you live.     And, this way the appreciation of that is kind of like your own soul acknowledging what it must be like even as your imagination can best supply you with some form.   But it is quite formless in that sense.   Any kind of form you give it is so much less than what it is. 
   
  Q#4: And then how do you as Michael, as Michael a Master Son..Me asking you?   Well Well …. You as a Creator Son and Master Son and as Urantian, have a perspective of course that we can never have but we can share .. ..     and encourage ought daily   moment-to-moment to do what is the best thing to do now – not just for the moment, but also because we are contributing to the Planetary Supremes over souls.
   
  Michael:  That is wrapped up, in what I talked about tonight.  Being aware of the fact that you are co creating.   You are involved in what you are experiencing.   This wondering what is best to do with your life, even moment by moment.   It would definitely are reaching – it is like opening yourself to this totality, even of your own being which might seem impossible because you are an infinity to yourself, both body, mind, spirit and soul.  To your moment-to-moment consciousness.   But, having this orientation, having this humility of not feeling humiliated by your limitations.   But by being aware of this humility is a spiritual blessing being aware of them, that way you can have some notion of where – we said one time, you can have some sense of the ideal thing to do.   And, you have this inner desire, this inner honesty of acknowledging that ideal whether you are able to do it our not.   That is just the direction.  Just lean into that direction the best you can.   That way, it came up recently; you are not totally humiliated by this potential.   You feel this potential you have but you never have been able to fulfill it.   But, instead of feeling that you are constantly so shy of realizing your potential you actually have no actual life.   You do have an actual life.   You are able to distinguish between the ideal and the real: between  the potential and the actual.    Some folks are so self-deprecating, so humiliated, that they never quite feel they are.    They are so identified with this unrealized potential.   It is like they are missing what is actually happening to them and it is a tragedy.   So, your decisiveness, your desiring to be fully conscious and decisive and responsible as you can be, that is what adds more to the Supreme.   At the same time, the Supreme is the actuality of your life and everyone else’s.    I have to give another lesson sometime on the difference between and the complementarily of potential and actual.    As you are able to be more and more actualized in your life you increase your potential. Does that help clarify your relationship with the Supreme?
   
  Q #4: Yes, when I first read in the Urantia book and about the Thought Adjuster and how incredible distance in the time and space between myself living here on the planet and my actual sitting in paradise with our Heavenly Father that the Adjuster was /is a way of bridging that gap of loneliness and that gap between myself and that distance experience.   This also, this living as fully as possible with an eye and an intention and an action dedicated to contributing to the Supreme here on Urantia is for me a work - is an all encompassing soul work, that keeps   me out of other people’s space (laughter).  I used to be quite a proselytizer of the Urantia Book and now I love to enjoy people as they are and even those people who are, - who indulge in evil because they don’t recognize their own ability to co-create.  Still, I don’t know very many of them face to face but I hear of them or read of them or I am told of them through various medium.    Those people too are talking a love of themselves from me because I minusculey participate in the evolution of our whole planet’s gradual extension or accumulation into the Supreme.    That seems sort of broad chambered thinking, but that is how I feel, how I actually look at it.   Yes, it is very humbling but not daunting to stand with your feet on physical ground and be your physical hand Michael in correcting myself through that time, the correcting of my self-time, and the loving attempt to make actual your love to the people I see around me.
   
  Michael:   My dear you have the essence of it.   Keep in mind the Supreme is fully encompassing of everything you would think of as good and evil.   In other words it is again the true story of all that has happened.    In that sense it is all-inclusive, but it is also just as an individual’s soul it is your own soul.   It is not only your memories of what happened to you.   Your soul was co-created by God by a presence of God.    And so, in this sense, the Supreme Being fully contains what you might think of  all the good and all the evil that men and women have done.   It is also seen from God’s point of view, as well as how they themselves experienced it.   So, as you say, while your Thought Adjuster is a presence of God in which there is no separation within God.     There can be and there is experience, the experiential reality of separation within individual human lives. I mean people can suffer enormously feeling separated from God.   And that has a reality that is real for them.   You can not gain say that and say that is some kind of mere illusion this suffering as some philosophies put it.    That suffering of separation is some kind of unreal illusion.   That is their experience.   And so this is a way of honoring and respecting each person’s each individual’s experience of life.  And that is what the Supreme is concerned with.  Both the individual personality’s experience of life and how that life is seen from God’s all inclusive, all wise, all knowing perspective as well.   So – continue.   Continue my Daughter.   You definitely have a great sense of the essence of what love is all about.   And just the greatest thing you can do with other folks is just enjoy them!
   
  Q #1: Michael if we are enjoying someone who says something you consider might be hurting them but would strip away the basis of their religion.    How do we decide on which side?   For instance, I am thinking of people I hear that say the following, “ Well I thought I could do everything on my own except I can’t get to heaven on my own.  So that is why I need Jesus.   That is why I need Christianity.”  I know many worth folks who believe this.  Great intent, wonderful faith loving people but, in that case do we just respectfully bow down to their credo and just say, “well I believe differently.   For instance we make it to heaven if we try at all and the Lord is merciful.   But it is so much easier with the living religion the living way, the truth and the life.   Is there something I could say to them to ease or to bridge that gap to get closer to the truth?   Would it help them?
   
  Jerry:   The life kind of feeling of the presence of Michael on that question was something just a little light hearted teasing.  You know.  You open up to people’s beliefs   and you can present…  I don’t want to speak for Michael, I just got that kind of a feeling as people ask questions I can of feel his attitude sometimes…   I am kind of forming just a matter of a little light hearted teasing and then  playfulness  and  be respectful of others but just offering. In  a sense of real -  Just understanding each other’s philosophy   you can offer yours without any   necessity to bow down or to  accept anything and also to grant them the ability not to bow down and accept yours.  Thank you all for being in the occasion.





  Here it is Jerry - Oh my!  It took forever...   Cheers!   Kath




  -SUBJECT:  LIGHTLINE TELECONFERENCE
               SEPTEMBER 30, 2010

  TEACHER:  MICHAEL


  T/R:  JERRY LANE



  Dear Michael and Mother Spirit, dear Devine Parents, dear old friends  
  welcome, welcome, always welcome.   I am always inclined to say “Come  
  be with us and then I realize you are already here, you are always  
  here so let me make that - help us be aware of your presence.     Help  
  us be aware that you are already, and always have been a part of our  
  lives, literally a part of us.
            Michael you are the spirit of truth: that orientation to  
  this wonderful curiosity of wondering what is this?  What is true here  
  in this moment?  This orientation towards an unfolding adventure that  
  you reassure us, and help us accept  this unfolding reality that has  
  no end.   Mother Spirit your holy spirit is literally part of us.    
  Dimensions of our own intrinsic abilities of intuition, to just being  
  to know things immediately, without any intermediaries.   Then to  
  accumulate this sole wealth of knowledge, and to correlate all that  
  knowledge, a thousand ways and understanding.   The courage to do what  
  is difficult– if you fear, anxiety, uncertainty, pain.  The courage to  
  attempt what is difficult in your holy spirit of counsel that helps  
  that innate ability we have to know others and to be known.   That  
  ability of yours to help us be aware of, and appeal to spirit to  
  appreciate the creation and through that our love and appreciation of  
  the Creator in worship.  And the final ability of ours, that you use  
  so greatly, the ability of all of this to really gather together our  
  soul-wealth and wisdom.   For this dear parents we thank you for being  
  a part of us and a part of our lives.    Amen


  Michael:   Dear children, dear friends, this is Michael.   And yes we  
  thank you for your greeting for we are indeed a part of you.   This is  
  our glory.   This is our wonder at being a creator son and creator  
  daughter of God.   That we have such companions such dear friends as  
  yourselves.    It helps us honor and appreciate ourselves, our  
  father’s creativity.   That he created such beings as you.   That he  
  endows you with not only your own unique personalities.   Every one of  
  you unique, unique in all the creation. But also he has endowed you  
  with his creative spirit. This absolute power that literally brings  
  something out of nothing.   It gives you this potential to be free.    
  You are a personal being, not an impersonal energy or object.  You are  
  not bound by antecedent causality simply that which came up to this  
  moment but in this moment, in this eternal now our Father shares with  
  you creativity.   And it literally comes right out of you.
            Just as God is like one of those surreal paintings of  
  yours.   Like a fountain out in the middle of the air bursting  
  forth.    So you are also a lot of little fountains like Mother  
  Spirit   and myself.   Like all personal beings of thousands of  
  different orders.    This is what personality is.   It is an intrinsic  
  part of nature of personality.  For as we have taught there is no  
  impersonal spirit abroad in the universe.   Spirit is a creative power  
  of a personal being.    So this very creation itself, as the creation  
  itself points at a creator, a first cause, so it also points at this  
  nearly limitless creation of personal beings.    It points at this  
  absolute reality of personality itself.    What it is to be a personal  
  being.    If it helps your philosophy, think of this as a primal  
  division of reality into impersonal reality.  Energy and material that  
  are based strict cause and effect as you have chased it now right down  
  into the subatomic realm and the nono-second of continuity and still  
  haven’t reached any bottom, or top or sides.   But it obeys the  
  absolute causality of God’s will. It is impersonal.  It is!   And from  
  one moment to the next it is utterly predictable, if as yet beyond  
  your science.   For also your science, your understanding of this  
  continuity has no limits.
            When you get to a personal being you are getting to a  
  creation of Gold’s.    A being that he is endowed with an ability of  
  his own to create and therefore, as he ordained it, this being is now  
  free.    This being, you, are capable of coming right up out of  
  yourselves with something that gives you a choice.   You have  
  everything, all that has led up to this moment this eternal now.     
  But in this eternal now you have this potential, this possibility to  
  originate something out of yourself, out of your own uniqueness.     
  That exists, that has existed, nowhere else up to this moment.   And,  
  to the very degree you can realize this creativity, you can have some  
  choice, some alternative, in addition to that is simply is already.     
  This is the power he has endowed you with.   This is what it is to be  
  a spiritual being. This is your essence my children.
            You are a spiritual being and whether you are consciously  
  aware of it or not you are co-creating your experiences of reality.    
  Moment by moment, in this eternal now, you have not only what has led  
  up to this moment, in a sense what you have created and what you have  
  been presented with all through your life.    In this moment you have  
  the potential for something new.    This is the essence of freedom.    
  This is the essence of your, we say ‘your relative autonomy” within  
  the cosmos.   Because it is not yet for you - unlimited.   You are  
  starting out on an eternal adventure.   You are just beginning to grow  
  a soul.   You are just beginning to accumulate  experience.  But, you  
  are not necessarily bound even by your own experience.  By your own  
  understanding.    You are co-creating your experience along with all  
  of that out there, all that is not you.   You are very complex beings  
  my children (laughter).  Unlike some other orders of personal beings  
  you have a physical body.   A living physical body that is an infinity  
  to you.   It is your experience of this body is also co-creation.     
  You are aware of how it changes.   Sometimes moment to moment with  
  excitement, fear, anxiety, delight.    All your sciences and all your  
  libraries have not yet plumbed the depths of this living tabernacle in  
  which you dwell, is composed of.   And for each single one of you as  
  you live, as your body changes, so your experience of it changes.   So  
  we often say you have a body/mind because they are so totally inter- 
  related.  So co-dependent.   How your mind reacts influences how you  
  perceive your body and vice versa.   What you do with your body, what  
  you put into your body so profoundly affects your mental state and  
  abilities. And so as a spiritual being you are not only presented  
  moment to moment with this body/mind of yours it is how you are  
  interpreting this, what value you give it.
            What value you perceive and recognize and really are  
  creating in your life.   This is spirit.   It is spirit, your spirit,  
  that evaluates your life moment to moment.   If you think about it  
  this is incessant.    Moment by moment you are evaluating what is  
  happening to you.   What you are doing.   So, strictly from the  
  standpoint of your personality, even your own body and mind, is  
  somewhat other.   It is not entirely yet under your full realization  
  and control.   This is another aspect of your growth.    As it gets  
  some control, some realization, some unification, even of your own  
  body and mind and they are not unlimited either in extent or  
  duration.   This very body and mind that connects you with its  
  perceptions to the rest of the world,  will go.  Your only lasting  
  possession is your soul.    This is wealth of experience you are  
  accumulating.
            You are growing.   But it too is a gigantic reality my  
  children.   That is co-authored by the presence of God within you.     
  So, even your own soul is an infinity to you.   You really have to sit  
  down and suspend all the rest of the world just to enjoy a few moments  
  of pure soul of pure reliving, as if for the very first time some  
  other part of your life.    And so your soul is a spiritual construct  
  so much greater than you might say, just your physical memories.    
  Your soul is the fullness within your memories.    And you do not  
  fully realize your own soul until you become one with its co-author.    
  Until you become one with the presence of God within you.
            Now if you think of how you grew into life starting as a  
  little baby.   Then for how many years you weren’t even aware of this  
  body and mind of yours. You weren’t aware of having teeth and a tongue  
  and chewing.   You were just absorbed in the food.    You hardly were  
  aware of those little hands reaching out.   You were more interested  
  in those toys and those things to get hold of.  You weren’t aware of  
  your feet, you were just aware of being able to move around, to run  
  over here and there.    It might have taken some of you years and  
  years to be aware of mirrors and that person over there.    That  
  person who made you aware you had a body. And the mind was just a tool  
  you used.   And how limited it was at first because is all collapsed  
  from time to time.   Try as your best the whole world just collapsed,  
  fell all apart, some terrible terrible aching thing and then you sat  
  there bawling until you could slowly, ever so slowly catch your breath  
  and start again.    Little by little you became aware of yourself.    
  You got this “self-conscious self”.    Your ego began to grow.   All  
  of a sudden there was a “Me” in your reality.    And there was all of  
  a sudden a “mine” in your reality.   This is “mine”.   For even little  
  fishes can be possessive of their accumulations. Even birds can be  
  territorial.
            So, indeed you are a very complex being (laughter).    Some  
  say this is a curse but what a gift it is.   Mind, Body, Spirit, Soul,  
  Ego.    And how your personality can identify with each in turn or all  
  together.    And so you see my children how it is not only the  
  evolution of culture all over the world, all those hundreds, even  
  thousands of little mini-cultures all over the world not only that but  
  the evolution of your own life.   How difficult it is, at times, to  
  convince people - persons, you – that human beings are spiritual  
  beings.    They are co-creating their own experience of life and to  
  that degree responsible for what is happening to them.   When so many  
  live in an agony, so much suffering based on not realizing this is a  
  very fundamental fact of human reality.   To not only they, but also  
  every one of those that they come in contact with, is another  
  spiritual being, another unique personality created by God.           
  To be able to respond to all that you are and all that is happening to  
  you is indeed humbling, is it not?   All that encompasses you.   All  
  that has its affect upon you.   All that you yourself are constantly  
  creating.    Your attitude towards all of that and your interpretation  
  of all of that.   All that you are and have been.   What a miracle!
            What an amazing thing this life of yours is.  But this then  
  is a spiritual blessing of humility, of being able to be aware of all  
  of this.  Even Mother Spirit and I are somewhat in the same  
  situation.    We too must humbly acknowledge and thank our Father for  
  even being able to perceive, to be aware of this encompassing of his  
  that is an infinity in every direction and every dimension.   And the  
  very fact that here we are.   Moment by moment.   Every moment we are  
  complete, as all the rest of his creation,  and yet by his will what  
  you call ‘time’.   This eternal now is in motion and here comes  
  another moment and another, like it or not.   This is his will and  
  here it comes.    To welcome this will of his.   To welcome, even to  
  enjoy and appreciate and worship this creation of his.    Me and you –  
  and each other.
            This is our responsibility.   This is our blessing to be  
  able to grow this innate desire, this innate ability to respond.    
  Especially to each other.   We acknowledge that only God is  
  responsible for the creation for only he has that ultimate, even the  
  absolute and infinite ability to respond to all that is.
            Still we can reach out to him.  We can orient ourselves  
  towards this truth, this adventure this unfolding and say, “Thank you  
  dear father – thank you for me - that I am.  Thank you for this  
  adventure that you lay out for me”.    On into an unending infinity of  
  you to discover, to grow.    And so thank you my dear children, my  
  dear friends for coming along with me on this ride.   This  
  appreciation of all that we are, even beyond our ability moment to  
  moment to understand.   The strange, magnificent reality in which we  
  are a part of our own encompassing.   Now if you have any questions or  
  comments this evening I am always glad to have some conversations with  
  my friends.


  Q#1:   Does that include all of us Lord?   Can we ask a question too?

  Michael:   Oh absolutely

  Q#1.  Thank you.   I would like to know, if I may, how does Spirit see  
  and hear and smell?   Do we have the ability to have our spirit see,  
  hear and smell just as we can sometimes read each other’s minds if we  
  are sort-of advanced, or are we truly engaged with another person we  
  can perhaps do what spirit can do?  Perhaps even more deeply now?     
  Can we develop that ability?

  Michael: My daughter there is no limit that can be put upon  
  personality.   This essential reality that you are, this unique being  
  that you are, neither in extent nor duration.   As long as you are  
  associated with this body/mind in this first life of yours, there are  
  limitations.    There are – these limitations are with respect to what  
  you can grow into.   At each moment, as I tried to express this  
  evening, there is - you are facing a kind of infinity of what you can  
  do.   So, all this is an unfolding, even of your own potential.  The  
  way you put it ‘ you don’t know what you can do until you try’.     
  That is a rather broad answer, but there is no way to pin down, and  
  that is a blessing, what all of your capabilities are.    You just  
  have to try and then be really honest with yourself as to what the  
  results of this experiment were.

  Q. Yes, I see.   Thank you – thank you so much.


  Michael:   Let me throw you a challenge.

  Q. OK


  Michael:   This will be with you forever so you might as well get used  
  to it.   The greatest challenge of any personal being, in your  
  relating with our father, is to open yourself in prayer and  
  meditation, and ask of yourself and of the whole spiritual community,  
  ‘what is the best thing to do next?’   That is kind of scary is it  
  not?   It is also opens a door to potential.    It is truly humbling.

  Q.    I will do it.   What is the best thing to do next after prayer  
  and meditation?   OK – Thank You.


  Michael:  In prayer and meditation – yes.

  Q#1: In prayer and meditation

  Michael:  One of the most sincere prayers you can ask of yourself and  
  of the presence of God within you and you can do it anytime.  Be  
  conscious of it.

  Q. Uh huh Wonderful, Thank you


  Michael:   You are welcome my daughter.  Be in my Peace.

  Q#1:   If no one else has another question I have one more.


  Michael:   Sure

  Q#1: OK – The woman who touched your hand received energy.   The same  
  we are to give out to uplift people.   But, she was a believer.  Is  
  that paradigm necessary?   Must the person be a believer before they  
  get the greatest transmission of our own energy?   Is – or is that not  
  necessarily the formula  to best help and save souls?   Can we have  
  one formula for that?  I guess what I am asking is can I still plant  
  the seed in a non-believer that did the same thing as when that women  
  touched your hem.   Can we still give that energy or does she or he  
  have to there to receive it with a certain willingness to believe, a  
  certain faith?   Or do we have so much to give to them and overcome  
  what they don’t have?

  Michael:   Well now my dear you are asking the very nature of love  
  itself.

  Q#1: Yes

  Michael:  Love can just be a total ‘beam me out’ of well wishing  
  towards another.   That will affect them, but not always  
  consciously.    Think of the difference between belief and faith.   
  Belief is a kind of a construct within you. It is like you have your  
  own personal philosophy of life.   It is what you are doing your best,  
  moment to moment to understand all of reality.   What you believe is  
  true.   But, by that very nature it is a time/space construct that  
  hopefully, is capable of growth, evolution.    Faith is the ability to  
  extend yourself beyond belief.    That is why it is so closely allied  
  to courage.    It is so closely allied to power.   It gives you an  
  ability.  And, so it is more or less your faith in the very power of  
  love that enables you to beam this power out.   This good wishing  
  toward someone else and then faith is rewarded in fact.  Something  
  happens.  Faith is a unique power that lets you do things beyond your  
  belief.   It is not a suspension of belief; it is a going beyond  
  belief.   Then it is rewarded in actuality.   Something actually  
  happens because of this faith that nothing else can do.  And it is a  
  very special reward.    So, yes, by all means, your faith in the power  
  of love.   In your own sincere, good intentions – again there is limit  
  again how that can affect someone else.   Because they have, in  
  addition to what ever they believe, they have the presence of God  
  within them.   They have a personality – and they can recognize a  
  kindred soul – irrespective of their belief.   It simply helps when  
  then their belief system, if you will, has this possibility within  
  it.   It makes it easier for them to recognize the love you are  
  sending them.  But, the love you are sending them and its affect is  
  not dependent upon their belief.   If their belief is such that you  
  can help them recognize what you are doing that reward is that much  
  greater for both of you.    But, as you love, and as that love has an  
  effect, so it can help them – so shall we say, evolve their own beliefs.

  Q#1: Excellent.   Thank you so much.   I love you Michael.

  Michael:  Thank you my daughter.   Mother Spirit and I can feel  
  that.   That is part of our glory is to feel that love.

  Q#1:   I am glad.

  Q#2:  How are you doing today?

  Michael:   Hello – Go ahead.

  Q#2:    I bring you greetings.   Thank you for the work you do.  I am  
  so grateful and appreciate your blessings to our lives and I am really  
  desirous to see that many more people get to tap into the ministry of  
  the Teaching Mission and I know that it is becoming a reality.   More  
  and more people are becoming aware of monjoronson.com and TM  
  Archives.    It is a beautiful thing you know.    I just wanted to say  
  thank you for the great work you and your team – you know –  
  Machiventa, Monjoronson and the others, Mother Spirit and so many  
  others involved in this massive work.   Sometimes it seems to some of  
  us the progress is so slow that change on the planet is so slow.   I  
  would like to say one or two things to encourage such individuals and  
  sometimes, some Light workers tend to get saddened by the forces of  
  evil.   They feel the forces of evil are so strong and it is so  
  difficult to push for change, for positive, progressive changes in  
  government, in politics, in religion and in every area of life.  Even  
  in material prosperity, because … in poverty in different parts of the  
  world.   And few people have so much money.    The Light workers get  
  tempted to feel, ‘this is so difficult, I’m not going to see this  
  wonderful, positive changes of prosperity, material prosperity,  
  righteousness, justice, peace in my lifetime.”   And sometimes it  
  weighs on them.  I would appreciate it if you would give a word or two  
  to encourage such people.   Then, on a different note, if you may  
  choose to talk about it, this idea – this concept of inner earth.    
  You know life in inner earth.  We have seen planet earth but, in the  
  inside of this orb called Urantia there is this life in existence,  
  many many miles down the surface of planet earth.   Maybe up to 800  
  miles down.   There is this world  (unknown)…that is used to peak   
  that denotes this other life when brothers and sisters existing within  
  inner earth.    If you want to talk about it I’d appreciate it. I know  
  for some reason   sometimes some teachers don’t want to talk about  
  it.   I don’t know how you feel about that.    If you want to talk  
  about that.    I am interested in the brotherhood of man on the  
  surface of planet earth and also connecting (unknown)…  other planets  
  and also what exists within planet earth.  If you want to talk about  
  that I’d appreciate that as well.   I will go mute and listen to your  
  comments.    Thank you.

  Michael:   Yes my son. It is always helpful to keep in mind that what  
  you perceive as evil is largely reactive.   It is almost defined by  
  the absence of true creativity.   Of never – of poor human beings  
  never quite coming into this eternal now and experiencing the full  
  power of their own creativity.    Of never touching – never growing  
  and touching an inner spiritual home base.   Of never having this.    
  So much of what they are doing is coming from a position of fear and  
  of reactivity.  Of feeling somewhat helpless in the stream of  
  events.   So, in a way, lacking that appreciation, that worship, that  
  thankfulness for their life, for all those around them, they are  
  always, as you say, behind the curve, always just a moment too late.    
  Never being able to feel and accept the responsibility of this co- 
  creation that they are involved in and what is happening to them.
            What has happened to them is as much their own doing as what  
  appears to them appears simply as ‘what was done to them’.   With this  
  orientation, with this basic philosophy of life and understanding that  
  they are not responsible, they are cutting themselves off from their  
  very own power of genuine creativity.   They, in a sense, make all  
  that fear and apprehension disappear.   It is those who view  
  themselves to be powerless.   They are extremely dangerous because  
  there is no limit what they can do in this feudal (?) – seeking more  
  power ever more power.   If they can’t realize the power they have,  
  that they are responsible for what is happening to them then they have  
  no ability to respond to it.
            So, keep this in mind.   That is where love is the only  
  thing that can conquer this.   It is your own creativity.   You own  
  being ‘in the moment’ and accepting, welcoming, your own ability to  
  respond.   In a sense it keeps you out of that subtle trap.   This is  
  where you cannot simply respond in kind. Because again, you are merely  
  reacting to their reactionary behavior.    It is your own creativity,  
  your own freedom, from however they are presenting themselves.    It  
  gives you that liberty.
            Also my son, keep in mind, as you live your day-to-day life,  
  as you come in contact with others, through your power of creativity,  
  love and appreciation and worship, you are literally demonstrating  
  what is possible.    And, so you might perhaps kind of capture their  
  attention, peak their curiosity; get them to wondering about your  
  freedom, and about the fact that you are not merely reacting to them.   
  The Urantia book calls it a spiritual fragrance that you have.   About  
  your whole being and the way you are handling life.   This is what you  
  are offering to them.   You are, if you will, teasing them out of  
  themselves.    To be spontaneous, to be free, to realize their real  
  power.   You have that rather cynical political maxim that ‘power  
  corrupts – and absolute power corrupts absolutely’.   Which may have a  
  certain validity in political and social, economic realms, but in the  
  spiritual realm my son, absolute power corrupts absolutely no one.      
  For it is your Saints, your folks who have lived their lives for  
  others that really had the real power.    And so, as they say the  
  challenge is for each one of you as it is for me.   It is not what is  
  the easiest or the hardest but what is the best thing to do next.
            You can start every day with meditation or a dozen times a  
  day to stop and wonder.   Open yourself – open yourself to your own  
  wisdom and your own love, your own spiritual nature and the presence  
  of God within you.   Dear Father – help me know what is the best thing  
  to do next.  Totally irrespective of whether you can do it or not.    
  That is the courage of self-honesty is to know the best thing.     
  Whether you can do it or not!   Then, all the rest of it falls into  
  place.   Then the world is transformed and you see there is no need  
  for patience.   The spiritual evolution of the world is not some slow  
  dragging process.    But the human race is on a roller coaster and  
  always has been.    Things are moving so fast especially now.   You  
  have some poor folks saying “slow down.   Too much, too soon”.  The  
  reactionary.   So open your heart to them my son.   Send them your  
  love.   Realize the pain they are in.    Let your love and this  
  consideration help transform you as well as you hope it will transform  
  them.   And be in my Peace.

  Q#1: That was beautiful

  Q#2: Well thank you Michael.   Do you want to talk about inner earth?

  Michael:   What is that again?

  Q #2:  Would you want to talk about inner earth?   Life in inner earth?

  Michael:  Enoch?

  Q#2:  I-N-N-E-R  E-A-R-T-H   Inner Earth.  Life within the planet.   
  Human life, intelligent life taking place inside planet earth.  …Am I  
  coming clearly to the TR?

  Michael:   Excuse me son, I can’t quite understand that.
  Q#2:  I think it is my unusual accent.  Maybe the TR is not picking it  
  up.  The second part of my comment was about inner earth.   Life  
  within planet earth.  Inside planet earth.  OK…

  Michael:   Yes I understand you my son.   To me this is a concept that  
  has a certain validity in a kind of a spiritual way in understanding  
  forces and that.  But there is literally no personal life within the  
  earth.   It is, as your science offers you, the  vision of a – the  
  world is actually a purely impersonal reality.   There is no inner  
  life in that sense beyond that which exists on the surface of the world.

  Q#2:  OK – One of the reasons I brought it up is because in some  
  circles we hear about the Galactic Federation and this idea – or this  
  reported facts that the Galactic Federation …   within inner earth.   
  So, if you go down through the oceans for example, there are different  
  entry ports.   So, some of the entry ports are through the oceans.    
  So you go down down further down, away from the surface you can get  
  through an entry port into inner earth as it were.   I have an idea or  
  an illusion of the Galactic Federation …  within the planet earth as  
  it were.

  Michael:  Yes my son, I understand the concept now.  But, that is only  
  a symbolic meaning.    It has no actuality in the physical world.  It  
  is literally, as your science is projecting, you go down through a  
  very kind of a surface that is sitting on a molten layer of magma and  
  as you go into the center of the earth it is as your science projects  
  it –you get to a solid core.    Of the heavier materials and such with  
  temperatures greater than the surface of the sun.   Much as your  
  Urantia Book describes it.   But, these are – this is only a  
  combination of what you would call geologic forces.   There is no  
  personal beings other than those on the surface.

  Q#2: I got you.

  Q: #1   Michael is it possible that sometimes people can create  
  scenarios through great desire.   You say anything is possible.  But,  
  this might even be counter productive.    Sometimes family members who  
  are grieving firmly believe they see members that have passed on or  
  graduated.   I used to contradict them saying there was no way spirit  
  is going to come back to do something trivial, although I know  
  exceptions can be made if there is an important reason for them to  
  come back shortly after death.   But, I thought they were doing it to  
  themselves to make themselves feel better.  Creating a scenario in  
  their minds, but they insist they really do see people who have  
  recently passed.   I am thinking for instance of my father who  
  recently passed and my sister saying she saw him.   Shall I just let  
  them believe what they need to believe unless I’m asked for my  
  opinion?  Anything is possible but it just makes me feel like I am so  
  wanting to enlighten someone who knows nothing about the Urantia book  
  so – the foundation would be difficult for me to begin to talk to her  
  about why I know they cannot possibly cross over once again after they  
  have graduated.

  Michael:  Yes my daughter.   I think you have a good grasp of the  
  situation.    Without that frame work of understanding about – first  
  of all what the personality is and then with the very psychic circles,  
  what happens to people - different individuals as they die.   Those,  
  which join the ranks of the sleeping survivors, those which you know,  
  are -relatively more quickly find themselves on a Mansion World as  
  they cross over very quickly.    You have to consider them the  
  efficacy, the very purpose then of what you are attempting to do.   If  
  it is not within their belief system, here again, if it is not within  
  their belief system,  you can only make, shall we say, certain  
  suggestions.   But, what is the point?   If your sister has these  
  experiences they have this, what you might call a relative validity  
  for her. What is the point of trying to prove something one way or  
  another if the ability to recognize that that proof is not there?     
  It would be merely destructive unless it is somehow or another.   This  
  whole sense of dealing with ghosts, which do not exist.   The Urantia  
  book is quite succinct between the unconsciousness of the last moment  
  – right before death and reawakening on the Mansion World.   The  
  personality simply resides with God.   It has no way of manifesting  
  itself.   Without that understanding it is almost pointless to destroy  
  what is a very valid psychological experience.

  Q#1: I can see that now.   Absolutely

  Michael:  Here you can simply, if they are open to it, kind of tease,  
  lovingly tease with notions if she is open to exploring this whole  
  realm.   In this case you are merely offering to add to it rather than  
  destroy what is if it is not being destructive to her.  If her belief  
  system is not hurting her in any way – that is just her belief  
  system.  It is a matter of love to acknowledge that.   It is enormous  
  love just letting people be.  Just enjoy them as they are.

  Q#1: Yes – enjoying them as they are.   Got it!   Thank you.

  Q #3:  Michael?

  Michael:  Yes

  Q#3: Would you allow me to … further on the previous question.   I  
  think there is a little bit of confusion of what we have been learning  
  from other sources.   I’ll rephrase the question a little bit.     
  Would there be physical beings of extra-terrestrial origin meaning  
  those not of earth civilization.   Are they somehow influencing our  
  earth in anyway whether they exist in other star systems or they exist  
  in maybe caves or some civilization on earth that we don’t know  
  about?   Would these beings possibly be influencing our civilization  
  in a way that would affect … time or Monjoronson’s Magisterial Mission  
  or the Teaching Mission and things like that.   Do you understand my  
  question?

  Michael:   Yes my son.   I take it you are referring not to the  
  spiritual community literally, but to physical beings.   Beings that  
  have some physical ness.  In a sense requires some form of starship or  
  whatever have you to be here.   And no, they are not influencing the  
  course of human events.

  Q#3: That would be the question – the broad question.

  Michael:    (Laughter) That is it in one sentence.


  *The Telephone Connection with Caller #4 was not as clear as other  
  connections.   Periodically there was a static that made accurate  
  transcription difficult.



  Q#4: Michael may I ask   something then, maybe on the component that  
  you referred to of the spiritual economy or the spiritual levels of  
  personality who are - The Urantia herself.   The Planetary Supreme  
  Urantia.   The evolutionary – the representative, or the Planetary  
  Supreme who is the evolving actualization of all of our choices who we  
  contribute to bring into our personality level at some future point   
  beyond light and life.  Could we – Is this our true concept?

  Michael: Yes my daughter, there is a manifestation of – The Supreme is  
  that dimension of reality that is a consummation, accumulation of all  
  the personal experiences.   In that sense the Planetary Supreme is an  
  evolving entity that like the Supreme Being is an evolving  
  manifestation of evolving time and space events.   It is contactable,  
  but as it is hard to say how this registers in the human consciousness  
  as something again is an enormous encompassing that is more felt as a  
  presence because if you stop to consider the supreme being of the  
  whole evolution of all of humanity on this planet.   Ever since Andon  
  and Fonta that is something that would have for you, shall we say, a  
  kind of a presence or any kind particularity or specificity within  
  this would be less than what it is.  What I am saying is the Planetary  
  Supreme can only register as a kind of presence beyond that you are  
  getting into some very particular notion of it.   You would be  
  breaking it down into less than what it fully is.  Do you see what I  
  mean?

  Q#4: Yes, certainly.  And the glory of being human is in the cosmic  
  circles is to become aware of responsibility, Cosmic responsibility in  
  our own actions and daily actions.    Loving people as they are,  
  loving the work that we do.  Conquering our inclination to wallow in  
  self-pity, observing  evil.   All of those things.   We contribute, if  
  we are wanting to contribute to the supreme as a presence or as  
  anything we can really understand.   We can only really see the  
  Supreme as our little own miniscule contribution.  But we are aware of  
  our contribution.   We are aware of looking around us and seeing the  
  world but, very specifically in one particular spot in time and space  
  and loving that moment – that eternal moment of being able to choose  
  for you in your will and your Father’s will to move that momentary  
  inch toward the realization, the actualization towards the Supreme.

  Michael:   The planetary Supreme is part of the encompassing in which  
  you live.    But it is so far beyond, just like the Supreme Being is  
  so far beyond human comprehension.   As the totality of all human life  
  of all human experience.   All your soul in a sense.   Think of the  
  World Supreme as the World Soul.   As the soul wealth of the planet  
  and all the millions and billions and trillions of human beings have  
  lived this is so far beyond human comprehension, yet it is part of the  
  encompassing in which you do live.   It is part of the spiritual  
  community if you want to look at it that way.  Of all the other  
  spiritual beings that are on the earth.   The Planetary Supreme is  
  some really awesome reality that you can only be aware of in this  
  sense as part of this incomprehensible encompassing in which you  
  live.     And, this way the appreciation of that is kind of like your  
  own soul acknowledging what it must be like even as your imagination  
  can best supply you with some form.   But it is quite formless in that  
  sense.   Any kind of form you give it is so much less than what it is.

  Q#4: And then how do you as Michael, as Michael a Master Son..Me  
  asking you?   Well Well …. You as a Creator Son and Master Son and as  
  Urantian, have a perspective of course that we can never have but we  
  can share .. ..     and encourage ought daily   moment-to-moment to do  
  what is the best thing to do now – not just for the moment, but also  
  because we are contributing to the Planetary Supremes over souls.

  Michael:  That is wrapped up, in what I talked about tonight.  Being  
  aware of the fact that you are co creating.   You are involved in what  
  you are experiencing.   This wondering what is best to do with your  
  life, even moment by moment.   It would definitely are reaching – it  
  is like opening yourself to this totality, even of your own being  
  which might seem impossible because you are an infinity to yourself,  
  both body, mind, spirit and soul.  To your moment-to-moment  
  consciousness.   But, having this orientation, having this humility of  
  not feeling humiliated by your limitations.   But by being aware of  
  this humility is a spiritual blessing being aware of them, that way  
  you can have some notion of where – we said one time, you can have  
  some sense of the ideal thing to do.   And, you have this inner  
  desire, this inner honesty of acknowledging that ideal whether you are  
  able to do it our not.   That is just the direction.  Just lean into  
  that direction the best you can.   That way, it came up recently; you  
  are not totally humiliated by this potential.   You feel this  
  potential you have but you never have been able to fulfill it.   But,  
  instead of feeling that you are constantly so shy of realizing your  
  potential you actually have no actual life.   You do have an actual  
  life.   You are able to distinguish between the ideal and the real:  
  between  the potential and the actual.    Some folks are so self- 
  deprecating, so humiliated, that they never quite feel they are.     
  They are so identified with this unrealized potential.   It is like  
  they are missing what is actually happening to them and it is a  
  tragedy.   So, your decisiveness, your desiring to be fully conscious  
  and decisive and responsible as you can be, that is what adds more to  
  the Supreme.   At the same time, the Supreme is the actuality of your  
  life and everyone else’s.    I have to give another lesson sometime on  
  the difference between and the complementarily of potential and  
  actual.    As you are able to be more and more actualized in your life  
  you increase your potential. Does that help clarify your relationship  
  with the Supreme?

  Q #4: Yes, when I first read in the Urantia book and about the Thought  
  Adjuster and how incredible distance in the time and space between  
  myself living here on the planet and my actual sitting in paradise  
  with our Heavenly Father that the Adjuster was /is a way of bridging  
  that gap of loneliness and that gap between myself and that distance  
  experience.   This also, this living as fully as possible with an eye  
  and an intention and an action dedicated to contributing to the  
  Supreme here on Urantia is for me a work - is an all encompassing soul  
  work, that keeps   me out of other people’s space (laughter).  I used  
  to be quite a proselytizer of the Urantia Book and now I love to enjoy  
  people as they are and even those people who are, - who indulge in  
  evil because they don’t recognize their own ability to co-create.   
  Still, I don’t know very many of them face to face but I hear of them  
  or read of them or I am told of them through various medium.    Those  
  people too are talking a love of themselves from me because I  
  minusculey participate in the evolution of our whole planet’s gradual  
  extension or accumulation into the Supreme.    That seems sort of  
  broad chambered thinking, but that is how I feel, how I actually look  
  at it.   Yes, it is very humbling but not daunting to stand with your  
  feet on physical ground and be your physical hand Michael in  
  correcting myself through that time, the correcting of my self-time,  
  and the loving attempt to make actual your love to the people I see  
  around me.

  Michael:   My dear you have the essence of it.   Keep in mind the  
  Supreme is fully encompassing of everything you would think of as good  
  and evil.   In other words it is again the true story of all that has  
  happened.    In that sense it is all-inclusive, but it is also just as  
  an individual’s soul it is your own soul.   It is not only your  
  memories of what happened to you.   Your soul was co-created by God by  
  a presence of God.    And so, in this sense, the Supreme Being fully  
  contains what you might think of  all the good and all the evil that  
  men and women have done.   It is also seen from God’s point of view,  
  as well as how they themselves experienced it.   So, as you say, while  
  your Thought Adjuster is a presence of God in which there is no  
  separation within God.     There can be and there is experience, the  
  experiential reality of separation within individual human lives. I  
  mean people can suffer enormously feeling separated from God.   And  
  that has a reality that is real for them.   You can not gain say that  
  and say that is some kind of mere illusion this suffering as some  
  philosophies put it.    That suffering of separation is some kind of  
  unreal illusion.   That is their experience.   And so this is a way of  
  honoring and respecting each person’s each individual’s experience of  
  life.  And that is what the Supreme is concerned with.  Both the  
  individual personality’s experience of life and how that life is seen  
  from God’s all inclusive, all wise, all knowing perspective as well.    
  So – continue.   Continue my Daughter.   You definitely have a great  
  sense of the essence of what love is all about.   And just the  
  greatest thing you can do with other folks is just enjoy them!

  Q #1: Michael if we are enjoying someone who says something you  
  consider might be hurting them but would strip away the basis of their  
  religion.    How do we decide on which side?   For instance, I am  
  thinking of people I hear that say the following, “ Well I thought I  
  could do everything on my own except I can’t get to heaven on my own.   
  So that is why I need Jesus.   That is why I need Christianity.”  I  
  know many worth folks who believe this.  Great intent, wonderful faith  
  loving people but, in that case do we just respectfully bow down to  
  their credo and just say, “well I believe differently.   For instance  
  we make it to heaven if we try at all and the Lord is merciful.   But  
  it is so much easier with the living religion the living way, the  
  truth and the life.   Is there something I could say to them to ease  
  or to bridge that gap to get closer to the truth?   Would it help them?

  Jerry:   The life kind of feeling of the presence of Michael on that  
  question was something just a little light hearted teasing.  You  
  know.  You open up to people’s beliefs   and you can present…  I don’t  
  want to speak for Michael, I just got that kind of a feeling as people  
  ask questions I can of feel his attitude sometimes…   I am kind of  
  forming just a matter of a little light hearted teasing and then   
  playfulness  and  be respectful of others but just offering. In  a  
  sense of real -  Just understanding each other’s philosophy   you can  
  offer yours without any   necessity to bow down or to  accept anything  
  and also to grant them the ability not to bow down and accept yours.   
  Thank you all for being in the occasion.






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