2021-05-03,
New Era Transitions Planetary Manager’s Group #4, Machiventa
Planetary
Manager’s Group #4
Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager
Topics:
Growing
with God toward perfection
Peace
of mind
Representative
democracies and oligarchies
Take
a leap forward
Getting
to Stage 3
Self-observation
Potential
topics
Harmony
of motivation
A
get-together during the pandemic
Ethics
and morality during a pandemic
Benefits
of in person meetings—rubbing auras
Ethics
and morality of vaccines
Life
is a precious commodity
Be
aware of yourself as a god in expression
TR:
Daniel Raphael, PhD
Invocation:
Jeff
2021-05(May)-03
Growing
with God toward perfection
Machiventa: This is Machiventa. Good morning. It is an auspicious occasion for
us to meet. This is how I view our meetings every two weeks. It is a
particularly special time in your lives and in my existence to be able to greet
you, to be here with you, to share the intelligence of the universe with you,
and for you to seek answers for those things that you've always wondered about.
Your world is experiencing some particular trauma now,
principally the pandemic, the uncertainty of global economics, the rise of the
right, and those individuals who would become and who are predators of your
societies, both those very wealthy people and those people who are
impoverished.
Our
work here, as far as the planetary manager’s team that deals with the
correcting time and the teaching mission and those other missions that are
existent, is to help you understand and make sense of the world around you—that
this is not just an ongoing episode of chaos one year after another, one decade
after another, and one century after another. We recognize, as does the First
Source and Center, that your world is a hotbed of discontent and that there are
very few people who are content, who are at peace with themselves
(principally), and at peace with their universe. This, for the First Source and
Center, is a rich battleground of decision making where individuals must make
decisions [about] their experiences; they must make decisions to do that which
is right and to oppose those who are not.
For
the first Source and Center (our Creator) who is perfect has never had the
experience of living, and have always been perfect
began to wonder in the beginning, before time, of how this occurred, what would
it be like to be imperfect, and what would the journey be like to move towards
perfection. And so, you as mortals have this chore, if you accept, to strive to
become perfect as your Creator and in doing so give your creator the
opportunity to experience, through you, the process of living and the process
of making decisions that lead towards your perfection
so you realize that you are one with the Creator. The Creator, as a fragment of
Itself, has given Itself to you to be with you, to experience your growth into
perfection, and to assist you in doing so. This is really what your lives are
all about. In the meantime, you go to work, raise a family, have mortgage
payments, make choices about how you live, your own lifestyle, and the quality
of life that you want to achieve. And sometimes, when you work through all
these things after several decades, you arrive (if you're fortunate) in your
40s and you've decided to live a simpler life, you begin taking those steps.
Peace
of mind
It
is in peace of mind that you find your growth. It is in your peace of mind that
you find, upon reflecting on your experiences, the wisdom that you need to move
ahead; to help you make sense of your life now and as you are presented with
new experiences in the future. This is essential. One of your philosophers long
ago said the unexamined life is not worth living. In many ways this is true
because it takes reflection of your own experiences to garner that wisdom that
you need to make fewer and fewer mistakes in life—to live more easily, to live
with less anxiety, no worry, no fear. And so, you have this before you in your
lifetime.
As
you can see from many of your local citizens and those on the news and TV, this
seems to be an almost impossible task. Yet your lifestyle is a choice. It is a
way of living, of you moving ahead. Sometimes you are caught up in such a tight
little scheme that you cannot see outside of the box you've created for
yourself. This is very unfortunate for what you see is a game of life that you
own, that it is invested in you, and you are invested in it. And you see no
other way of living. This is disastrous to the growth of your soul. You make
your soul more weighty with more soul inertia to help
you cross over into the morontial life. Some of these
decisions are very, very difficult. They are existential in nature. In reality, you determine your existence into the future
with every day that you live. We're here to assist you to do that, to learn how
to go within, to release the tight hold you have in your life, and to share
your life with your Thought Adjuster—the God presence within you—and your
celestial teachers and angels. They—we are all here to help you—assist you to
grow. Growth is the primary value for souls in transition from the mortal to
the morontial. Thank you. I am open for questions if
you have any.
JT: Alright, I'll start
the question-and-answer mode. We're going to open the questions up with Jeff.
Representative
democracies and oligarchies
Jeff: Thank you JT. Machiventa, this is a question I've been thinking about for
some time. And so, it's really a throwback to discussions that we've had in the
past. You've stated on more than one occasion that representative democracy is
a preferred form of government. At least one contemporary historian has claimed
that all republics eventually devolved into oligarchies. My question is, are
oligarchies an efficient system of providing goods and services to a large
population or are they a basic threat to true republican government? Thank you.
MM: They are definitely a threat. Thank you. You have further questions
regarding that?
Jeff: Well, it seems at
least my reading of history is that the Founding Fathers of the United States
looked at all of the governments that they could find that had failed and tried
to figure out what was the best form, and our lower house of government was
modeled after the democracy in the city of Genoa where people served two years
for free or nominal compensation and they had term
limits. They spent two years representing their district and they were gone. In
a stage three democracy it seems to me that having a system where large
corporations, large labor unions, and large groups of people can essentially
bribe politicians to represent their need, this representative forum that we
have now just isn't working. And if that's your perception, do you have any
suggestions of how people like ourselves could get
other small groups to maybe move to a different organization in the stage three
democracy?
Take
a leap forward
MM: Yes. The foundations
of democracy are based upon the foundational authority of the public, of
citizens individually and collectively. That, as you know, has been greatly
eroded and is almost nonexistent in your current form of democratic republic.
The extraordinary influence that monied individuals and corporations have upon
representatives of the public is egregious. It is intolerable. It is defaming
and it is highly destructive. One must take a leap forward in the same degree
of hope and faith that your founding fathers had when they wrote your current
form of the constitution in that they had no way of knowing ahead of time
whether this democracy/democratic form of governance would work or not. They
wrote the design for this democracy, meaning that they set out the parameters
of its performance, how it would function, and the system and the linear
processes that would be involved. As those processes have become antiquated and
ineffectual, it is necessary to now move forward with faith and confidence in the
public to once again call upon the public to participate more effectively. I
would not say more directly but more effectively. As you use the operative word
of “what works.” “What works” is an important measurement of the performance in
the long run.
Getting
to Stage 3
You
have the technologies now to design a new form of government, a new form of
democracy as you mentioned—a stage three democracy. This has several processes
involved that are integrated as circular systems. One is that local citizens
would meet in what This One has called a design team process. It is a process
of a team meeting where the team members have specific roles, it has a specific
size, and it has various functions. The primary function is to ask and then use
the wisdom of those present to garner the wisdom necessary to make your systems
more effective regarding whatever social, political, or economic problem they
are having in that local community. Their wisdom would be collected in the form
of findings and should be collected with other teams across the nation, whether
the nation is United States, Germany, England, Finland, or whatever country it
may be. And the collective wisdom of the citizens would be made available as
recommendations to their elected representatives. What is not said in all this
is that this is a learning system.
Your
present form or design of democracy does not have any embedded learning systems
in it. It does not learn from experience. It is not able to test itself to see
what works and what does not work. It is simply operated by the will and
machinations and mentality of the representatives, senators, and so on who are
involved in the processes of your government. What is the intention for all of
this? Truly, it is the liberty and freedom of citizens to express and develop
their innate potential by taking advantage of opportunities so that they
can do so. It is important that feedback be received from citizens as social
change is endemic to and indigenous to the public and which has made your
current form of governance inadequate, antiquated, and intolerable.
The
object, the intention of all this redesign of your democracy is to establish a
process that is self-sustaining unto itself—not for the acquirement of more
power, control, authority, and money by those who are elected, but that your
nation would grow (quality) as the population grows (in quality). In such a
design it would be advantageous to educate all people. It would be advantageous
to exercise the greatest extent of democracy by allowing everyone to be able to
vote who is age 18 and over, regardless of their district, regardless of their
gender, their racial composition, ethnicity, and so on. It is important that
all these efforts reflect a societal morality that has as its core intention to
preserve the social organization of that society and of that nation. If this is
not done, then oligarchies will take over as you suggest. Thank you.
Jeff: I would like a follow
up question on that if I may. Machiventa, it seems
that there is such a stranglehold by a few technology companies now that are
not allowing any competition to interfere with what they see as the gathering
of information and knowledge about all of us. Is it most likely that change
will come, or most likely to come from the local level of people just
reorganizing themselves to solve local problems with the stage three Democratic
model to kind of wander through to find out what works and what doesn't work
and have that bubble up, or is it most likely that people will get angry and
rebel and try to break up the oligopolies that are kind of stifling us at the
moment?
MM: Yours is a speculative
question which does not concern us. Thank you.
Jeff: Okay, thank you.
Self-observation
JT: I have a question from
Walt. Walt asks: If a group of Urantia mortals were
to become similarly enlightened as yourself, what key practices and pursuits
would they engage in that you observe is not being done even by those of
us who embrace these transcripts.
MM: Thank you for your
question. The primary practice that you would want to use daily and throughout
your day is self-observation. And self-observation of course is useless unless
you have a standard by which you observe and estimate and evaluate your
thinking, your words, and your actions. Self-observation of your thinking is
not synonymous with self-analysis at all. Self-observation is that you in your
self-will capacity, observe yourself as an outsider would, but your self-will
is also interior to your mind and is able to estimate your egotism, your
self-importance, your humility, and your loving kindness.
This
self-observation by your will-mind has as its coach your Thought Adjuster—that
individual fragment of God who is with you, who wants the very best for you,
and of you and who will guide you in your self-observation when you ask. Now,
some of you can hold a conscious dialogue with your Thought Adjuster and which
we appraise as a very good thing. Some of you are still practicing to learn to do that, and that is a very good thing.
You want to use this self-observation even if it is outside of the dialogue to
estimate yourself, not out of guilt, not out of fear, not out of anxiety, but
as an objective observer of the God presence within you that you know while you
were doing this, that you are being monitored by your Thought Adjuster in that
process who also wants only good for you. So, your self-observation is quite a
practice that will help you make right decisions on an ongoing basis. If
you are self-observing of your thinking that you want to live a lifestyle and
quality of life similar to the people down the street
who have so much more money, then you really are not living with your Thought
Adjuster in a conscious relationship. That is a cultural relationship.
That is not the concern of your Thought Adjuster.
The
Thought Adjuster is concerned solely with you and your soul growth and your
development as a spiritual being who wants to exercise their spiritual
practices on a daily basis to become more perfect.
We're not talking about you striving to achieve sainthood by being such a goody
two shoes—certainly not—because you need to live life in the grit and the grime
of life that presents to you every day. You have decisions to make. You have
children to raise, decisions to make concerning whether they go to school, when
they go to school, and under what conditions they go to school if you live in
an era of a pandemic. Many of you who are parents are not having an easy time
of it. It is in fact very difficult. And you would need to become much like
your example in Jesus as the elder brother of his siblings. He was a remarkable
individual in doing that and his siblings grew to become stalwart individuals.
Yes,
the practice of self-observation is critical to your spiritual growth. Also
involved in that is your willingness to be an observer and a participant with
your Thought Adjuster in the activities of your life. It eventually comes down
to the fact that you cannot serve God and serve other means as well. For
mortals, it is a compromise. It is a process of making decisions for which we
started these answers. Thank you.
Potential
topics
JT: All right. Walt also
has some suggestions about potential topics of interests:
1).
Practices and perspectives to eliminate negativity and achieve inner peace and
joy
2).
Practices of perspectives that eliminate negativity and achieve inner peace and
joy
3).
Practices and perspectives for achieving spiritual purity and power to best serve
humanity, healing trauma in the self
4).
How the individual can contribute to elevating the collective consciousness
5).
Identifying and removing one’s blocks against effective living.
And
my favorite two of his:
6).
Cultivating relationships with the Thought Adjuster
7).
Cultivating relationships with the Guardian Seraphim
And
those are his suggestions.
Harmony
of motivation
We
also have Godwin repeating and expanding upon his questions from last week. He
was talking about the harmony of motivation and his rephrasing of his question
from last week is: The evolution of life on our planet began as the evolution
of the physical form, designed by the Life Carriers to culminate in the
evolution of the spirit form that eventually leaves the planet. Along with the
physical form, the evolution of the internal component of the physical form
took place, its energetic part, which was expressed through emotions. They
motivated the animals to survive and maintain their quality of life. We
received these emotions as an inheritance, and now humans throughout their
lives struggle with their animal emotions. Nevertheless, the animal world is
very harmonious, compared to the world of intelligent humans, who destroy
themselves with these emotions. I suppose emotions are given to us as a
motivation that drives us to act, but we have lost something in this evolution,
apparently the harmony that exists in the animal world. That harmony was laid
down by the Life Carriers. And it turns out that the more intelligence we acquired
during evolution, the more we lost the harmony of motivation. It is
difficult to formulate a precise question here, but I would like to explore
this inner energy area to have a greater understanding of the harmony of
motivation, and to act more consciously.
Daniel: Well, JT I'm kind of
swimming here. I'm treading water. How do you want to proceed? Do you want to
formulate that as a question?
JT: He has forbidden me
from inserting myself between him and Machiventa.
Daniel: One moment.
MM: Of the hundreds of
words that you just recently used in your “question” the premise of your
discussion is in error. For one, animals do not have emotions. Animals have
reactions. They have genetic memory that was learned by the epigenetic process
through the generations of their ancestors. When they are hungry, they hunt,
and they kill other animals. They do not reason whether they like this animal
or not. They simply want to kill it and eat it. Emotions, on the other hand, in
humans—your species—is highly dependent upon your thinking and of your choice.
Even in a situation where you are enraged, it is your choice to be enraged or
not. When you do not consider or self-observe your reaction to a situation and
you act out your rage to hurt someone, then you have regressed into your animal
nature of killing the other person though you probably won't eat them. This is
the shortsightedness of human emotions. They are useful to portray the best
aspects of your being through your empathy for others, your compassion to reach
out to those in need, or with others in their joy and to develop a generalized
love for all humanity. You need to rethink your question in light of this as
you have gone astray in you're thinking and what
developed from the premise. Thank you.
JT: Okay and I'll give him
a chance to respond to that before I carry on with his questions. His
suggestion for topics is to focus on the study of motivations. That's the first
sentence of his suggestion anyway. And we will go to Liz.
Liz: Good morning Machiventa. How are you today?
MM: I'm very well, thank
you very much. The sun is shining where we are regardless of the weather where
you are, or others are. Thank you.
A
get-together during the pandemic
Liz: Well, the sun is
shining here too and it's a beautiful day made more so by our session with you
today. So, I thank you for that. Machiventa, I'm
feeling a hunger to get together in person with people who listen to or read
these transcripts or who are on this call. The first time we tried to get
together the people on the call, the covid pandemic hit, and we had to abort
that plan and I was very sad about that. We're having a small gathering next
week, and I'm very (maybe overly) excited about that, and it makes me want to
have a larger, more comprehensive gathering of people who are devoted to this
line of thinking where we could perhaps engage in these small study groups or
design teams. My concern is of course, future pandemics and as you have always
referred to them in the plural. And so, I'm reluctant to begin organizing
something like that. We did have a monthly discussion group that met online
before there was a hiatus and that was somewhat beneficial, but ultimately, not
quite satisfying to me, although I am happy to reimplement it and I'm wondering
if you have words of advice to me about organizing something on a grander
scale.
Ethics
and morality during a pandemic
MM: Thank you for your
question. The answers aren't as direct as you may think. It will involve some
homework on your part and on the part of others. The question is a matter of
ethics and in the end it involves morality. The ethics
has to do with your relationships—how to maintain your relationships in the
face of pandemic. The second is to consider the morality involved in a
gathering of people where someone disregards the lives of others and brings the
pathogen into the group unsuspecting and unaware on their part. It is important
that neither ethics nor morality be violated.
What
is necessary then to maintain the relationship of individuals who wish to gather together is to devise a simple set of ethics that
will assist you and enable you to gather together perhaps 20 people or even 30
who would like to meet in person without jeopardizing their health. You have
seen clearly from the past two years, what the unawareness of someone who
brings the pathogen into the midst of others [does to] those who return home.
It is very similar to children who come from their community and get on a bus,
travel to their school and classrooms, meet with other students and pass along
the pathogen to those other children who pass them on to their siblings, their
parents, perhaps their grandparents, and their neighbors with the potential
loss of dozens and dozens of lives from that one incident.
You
must answer this question: What ethics do you need to develop to ensure that
those who attend are protected? It is not so much of having a group of people
who have all had their vaccinations as opposed to those who refuse to get
vaccinations. It is important that everybody be able to attend. Those who have
had vaccinations would show proof that they have. Those who refuse to have
vaccinations would need to show proof within the last day before they attend
that they are not infected with that pathogen. This would be one way of
assuring to some degree that everyone is safe in meeting together.
You
see the factor we spoke about long ago about raising children raises its head
particularly with adults who are conscious of being safe and being able to feel
comfortable in the presence of others. When a person's safety is proven to have
been compromised, then the damage both ethically morally and in a relationship
is tremendous. You would find that there would be almost no way that you could
reestablish a personal loving, caring relationship with the person who infected
you. It would be very difficult to do. Therefore, the ethics must be weighed on
the side of caution rather than liberality. The consequences of ethical
violation would be tantamount to a moral violation which would destroy your
group. You must think of these possibilities. Those individuals who refuse to
receive a vaccination may be offended by such stringent ethics. On the other
hand, they would surely feel adrift if they were the cause of someone else's
death. Thank you.
Benefits
of in-person meetings—rubbing auras
Liz: Thank you for that. I
understand what you're saying and we have put into
place restrictions on this small gathering that's happening next week. I'm
thinking of a larger gathering. I guess I'm wondering if the benefits outweigh
the potential dangers of a group of 20 or maybe even 50 people getting together
for three or four days even if we put these restrictions into place. Is there a
true benefit of meeting in person and discussing these things rather than doing
it online?
MM: Yes, there is a huge
benefit by meeting in person. That answers that question. You raise a situation
which I wish to address and that is: The ethics must be the same for a group of
two people as it would be for 200 people. You want to be assured that there are
no ruptures in the relationship between people—that the group can continue on, that the life and their vividity is intact and
not violated so that the group can continue to move forward effectively. You
have read where Jesus has said, where two or 3 are gathered
together, I am there. Some people have extended this to the internet, to
telephone calls, through emails and so on. We, however, feel that there is a
serious diminution of the shared energy between people when those mechanisms
are used. It becomes far more an intellectual process than that of meeting in
person. You do not have the opportunity of rubbing elbows literally with your
auras rubbing auras to become acquainted with the person you are talking to.
Physical proximity is energetic as much as anything. You share that energy with
another person, and your emotive energy is one factor of that. You are not
aware of the other 2 or 3 senses of your being that do react to the presence of
other people. You would want to do that. You would want to have a full stimulus
from a benefit of knowing individuals who visit you.
The
in-person visit is the most productive and most highly advantageous. You see
when two or three are gathered together, you share a
consciousness of oneness that is shared with Christ Michael, your guardian
angel, your Thought Adjusters and the group angels who would attend to your
group. If you think of these senses and the energy that is shared in person as
being 100, then those that are shared through the medium of Skype, of video
sessions, telephones, and emails would hover between 5 and 10%. It is only
increased from that when the emotional and energetic interpersonal energies
arise in those situations. Thank you.
Liz: Well, thank you for
that answer as always. I feel this hunger to rub auras with the other people on
this call in with other people who read these transcripts. So, I will proceed
and put out the call for maybe a group of organizers who want to join me in in
putting this together for early next year. You would support that?
MM: Most definitely.
Liz: And you would grace us
with your presence?
MM: You couldn't keep us
away.
Liz: Wonderful. Thank you
so much Machiventa.
MM: I have a question for
you though. Why delay it so long?
Liz: Well, that's a good
question. These things take a while to organize, but it could be done late this
summer. Is that what you're thinking?
MM: Yes, or between then
and the end of the year. One qualifier I must insist on is that those who are
involved in the development of your ethical guidelines for such a meeting must
be unanimous. If there are individuals who have hidden agendas that they do not
share, this would be highly detrimental to the group for it will eventually
come out. Thank you.
Liz: Thank you. Well, the
timing sequence is of concern to me in that if we're talking about this current
pandemic, those of us who are vaccinated against this pathogen would be safe
together. I don't know when the next pathogen will show up. If another one
shows up, then we will all have to redo this process. So, the timing is kind of
critical and then we want to do it sooner rather than later, I suppose. So, I
will take this under advisement. Thank you.
Ethics
and morality of vaccines
Raymond: Good afternoon Machiventa. This is Raymond. So, we just talked about
morality and ethics. And back in the 1950s and 1960s, well up to 61, they had
the wonder drug called thalidomide, that they were going to help and save
everybody. And that turned out to be a disaster. So, now in
regard to the vaccine and when you spoke about ethics and morality, what
are your thoughts on the ethics and morality of making a vaccine that alters
your DNA with unknown consequences? It's not repairable or reversible. So, and
your thoughts on that.
MM: This is Machiventa. So, you tease me with this question for it's
not real, is it?
Raymon: It is a real question.
MM: It does not exist,
does it?
Raymon: What drug,
thalidomide?
MM: The drug you're
talking about that you surmise would cause DNA damage.
Raymon: No, it's real. Even
the even vaccine makers tell you how they're changing it with mRNA. It's not a
fantasy question.
MM: It's a personal
question that needs to be answered by the individual. Whether they take the
drugs or not. We are not entering into speculative questions today, and do not
plan to in the future. If you have resistance to taking the drug, then don't
take the drug. It is your will that is involved.
Raymon: I know but it's not
speculative Machiventa. That's my point.
MM: Then you would want to
educate the public, wouldn't you?
Raymon: I would indeed, and
they have. But nobody understands what mRNA is really. Most people don't
anyway.
MM: Thank you for your
question. Can we move on?
Raymon: Sure. Thank you.
JT: That's all the
questions Machiventa. If you have a closing, I
thought we'd open the floor to discussion of possible topics after your
closing.
Life
is a precious commodity
MM: Thank you. This is Machiventa Melchizedek your planetary manager. As you can
see you live on a hazardous planet where there are many unknowns that you are
not sure of your life as it exists and so you must withdraw according to your
judgment, your estimation, and your discernment from those activities that you
think would be hazardous to your life. This is your choice, and we support that
completely. We do not want you to be cavalier about your life. Nor do we
suggest that others be cavalier about their lives. Life is a precious
commodity, and it is given to you with the hope that you would maximize its
potential. If you think that potential is jeopardized, then you must do what is
necessary to preserve your potential for expression. This is one of the mandates
of your mortal life as a spiritual being who is in the process of becoming.
Be
aware of yourself as a god in expression
There
are many aspects about your being—physically, psychologically, mentally,
intellectually, and spiritually that you are unaware of that are going on right
now without your awareness. Life becomes more exciting when you become more
aware of yourself as a god in expression and becoming more real soul-wise; that
you become more real and visible to the morontial
beings around you even as you are a mortal. You wish to become perfect. You will to become perfect. You will to
will God's will be done in your life. This is the process of becoming more
godlike.
You
are acquainted with the Hippocratic oath. We have one as well: that we not provide you with information that would jeopardize your
existence, that we not encourage you to be risk takers when risks would be
hazardous to your life's journey. We must preserve life and cause no further
injury to you than you have already. Your life as a mortal is fraught with
challenges that are hazardous to your well-being. We strive to protect you in
all instances without providing you with the answers of how to live your life.
It is difficult for you, yes, and it's difficult for us for we feel your
sincerity. You know of our sincerity for we are sincere beings living in
different worlds. Many of us here have been mortals—many of our company have
been mortals on other planets who observe what is going on here and they wish
to compassionately assist you with your questions on a similar mortal plane as
they experienced on theirs. It is with a heavy heart, but I wish you well
during your day and you're coming days, for I am unable to provide you with the
answers that you seek. And many times, the answers we would give you would not
assuage you of every difficulty, or of your worry and your fears. We wish you
well in all your being. We wish you most of all to become more perfect as your
Father in heaven is perfect and as Christ Michael is as well, Good day.
JT: Thank you Machiventa and thank you Daniel.
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