[tmtranscripts] 2/24/01 Spokane Teacher Base (2)
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Thu Mar 1 09:49:44 PST 2001
GINNY: Is the parenting in the morontia realm harder or easier, and I assume
it is just as valuable as it is here.
AARON: It's different, and obviously it's different because of the physical
factor, but it's also different because the children you will be parenting in
the Adam and Eve schools and the nurseries on high are fraught with their own
voids that must be compensated for, but you see, you too have certain voids,
and so the complimenting nature of your future experience with parenting
children who need parents, is going to provide those unique problems and
challenges in lieu of, let's say, immaturity in perhaps a girl getting
pregnant or a boy selling drugs.
There will be different problems to deal with but you will be eager to fit
yourself to your challenges because the experience of parenting, even in
mansonia, are as enriching and valuable as they are here – for you and for
your children.
THOROAH: I would think that might be something along the line of what we go
through here when we adopt children. I've had the experience of adopting a
child and I didn't love it or didn't parent the child any different than I
would have with my genetic child, so perhaps there's some analogy there. And
then again we look at our brotherhood and sisterhood situation here, that
family thing, we can get some of that family aspect in our brotherhood and
sisterhood, too.
GINNY: Well, I guess I connect the physical act of being pregnant and
delivering and taking care of the child as so much a part of parenting, that
is such a bonding part, thatI wonder if that same bonding is possible.
THOROAH: It would be different, probably, for females from males.
GINNY: Uh-huh. It's a bond between mother and child – that's so strong that
I connect a lot of that with the physicalness of it. And on the morontia
worlds, that physicalness is not quite so strong, I assume, that this ... the
bond isn't ...
PAULO: Paulo here. I guess it's my turn and I was reluctant to come in when
you were talking about childbirth, but they pushed me through the door.
(Giggles) The experience of physical birthing is a fascinating observation
shared by all of the animal kingdom and it is very much like those hormones
that were discussed earlier. The birthing experience is far more
physiologically important than emotionally, and almost has no bearing on
spiritual connection.
The misfortunes of Urantia are myriad and not the least of its problems are
in this very heart-wrenching topic: that of family life and the ideals of
family life which were intended to be far more elevated than the
circumstances you find surrounding you on Urantia today. The neighboring
planet chapter does give you an inkling of how important adoption is toward
having meaningful parenting experiences. And yet neither you nor your
neighbors are recipients of the pattern established by Nebadonia's insights
inherent in the Infinite Spirit that would be passed along to the daughters
of the universe.
(Yes, Gerdean, I am aware that the Material Son and Daughter are the – [Don't
be afraid.] – the progeny of Michael and the Melchizedeks, but the pattern
was established by and through the union of the Creator Son and his consort
well before the coming into being of the Order of Melchizedek. No way is
your Mother Nebadonia going to be overlooked or discounted in her creations,
her contributions to life on Urantia.)
Alright, where were we? I had mental block there to work through. Many of
you have mental blocks that need to be worked through, that would not be a
problem had you not been involved in so many set-backs. I don't mean "you"
in your few decades' existence, but "you" in your planetary existence. You
will not be called upon to parent by yourself when you arrive in the mansion
worlds. You will first need to be taught what it is to come from a real
family, a family before default, a family before rebellion. You will all
need to "pass by" that hall before you proceed.
Many of you will proceed past the nurseries but many of you will not, and
those of you who are given the go-ahead to pass by the nurseries because you
have adequate parenting experience here will opt to tarry behind to observe
and awaken in yourself a whole new frame of reference for the parenting
experience based on what you have learned by getting your feet wet in the
Adam and Eve Schools. Marriage itself constitutes another realm of reality
than that which is visited by most of you in your mortal associations here.
Oh, I just can't begin to tell you how many things you have to make up for.
GINNY: Are you saying that if we have entered into the marriage or the
parenting experience here and not done such a good job of it, we can relearn
it there? Choose to relearn it there? Or is the mere fact of parenting and
marriage mean that you have the experience therefor you go on, past the
nurseries.
PAULO: Doing it is not knowing. This is why anyone can physiologically give
birth, but does that mean you have any idea of how to parent? Or what it
means to observe your child unfold like a rose? Or a cactus flower? And then
how to preserve its beauty while exposing it to truth? And retaining its
goodness in the face of the inevitabilities of the creature existence? There
are so many of you who are in such a hurry to get on with it and jump right
up and meet Michael, shake hands and take off for Havona.
GINNY: And fuse somewhere along the line. Well that was very helpful
information. I had not realized that, number one, the fact that you have had
children and entered marriage that you're done with it, and secondly, that we
each have to learn what a true family is like before we can be really good
parents.
PAULO: Yes. Tomas has something he would like to say. (Long pause) We have
resolved that. Never mind.
You will realize, I am sure, that while it may seem as though everyone from a
material world will have to pass through the Adam and Eve schools and
nursery, you would do well to have in mind that this is a decimal planet, and
many of the normal worlds that have progressed naturally have met the
requisite requirements; thus will not need to tarry.
And there are even some of you who have been born on a decimal world who will
be allowed to advance because of your applications to furtherance of your
morontial reality such that the quality of your life experience has met the
requirements as set forth. But there are very few from Urantia who will be
free to pass over the detention halls that will enable you to make up for
some of the inherent deficits - inherent in having been on a world of
rebellion and default wherein the ideal of marriage, family, home life, have
been markedly altered from the original plan.
Also, in the past you have been counseled that you are in many ways an oddity
in the universe and you will be as a sore thumb when you reach the mansion
worlds for your roots will show. (I'm not talking about hair dressing.)
Your idiosyncracies are going to set you apart from your neighbors, as it has
been inferred that it could be construed as an embarrassment that you are so
retarded.
THOROAH: There goes the neighborhood!
PAULO: But you are not the only planet who has experienced default and you
are not the only decimal planet by a long shot, so you will find yourself
with compatible peers all along. Just don't feel sorry for yourselves, and
hold your head up!
There's one last thing that we'd like to point out before we close today.
One moment please.
TOMAS: This point is one you've been recently reminded of, you in this base
of operations by and through your studies. You must remember the conspiracy
afoot to bring to the minds of mortals on Urantia the revelation of truth as
is set forth in Urantia Papers, as was brought to you by and through the
auspices of the Revelatory Commission, from instructions On High, and that is
that within the mind of your mortal associates there resides the faithful
Adjuster who will work ceaselessly to bring the mind of its indwelling into a
cosmic awareness of its place in Our Father's universe.
Therefore when you ponder and approach how best to teach and preach, how best
to set forth that which you have come to know, believe in, and adore – to
others, rely upon their Adjuster to take what you say and use it in the
advancement of the souls of those you touch as you pass by. Don't rely on
your creativity or your understanding or your intelligence or your instincts
or your perceptions, but go beyond that to divinity itself. Just as we've
discussed today the relative levels of love, be bold enough to take the
Kingdom by spiritual assault and lay seige to the indwelling Adjuster,
by-passing completely the mortal you choose to serve, in trust of the
Adjuster who will harken to that man's soul needs.
Trust Our Father to help you as you choose to serve His children as you pass
by. Amen and Farewell.
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