[tmtranscripts] 7/14/01 SPOKANE TEACHER BASE (Part 1)

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DATE:  July 14, 2001
LOCATION:  Spokane, WA
T/R:  Gerdean
TEACHERS & TOPICS:
       TOMAS,: Our movement compared to a Nebulae
                   :  Discussion of genetic lineage (Nephilim, Nodites)
       PAULO:   Responds to questions re:
                           (1) Lucifer being forgiven
                           (2)  Satan as a cult leader, 
                           (3)  God in complicity with Lucifer
                     Recognizing rebellion vs childishness

TOMAS: Good afternoon, fishers of men.

We are here with you in grateful acknowledgment of the growth of our 
movement, our spiritual reality, the conviction of faith wrought by your 
association with like-minded believers.  The strength of your community is 
like a nebulae swirling in space.  When the holy finger reached forth and 
stirred the air, all matter therein was activated and set in motion.  Once 
this motion became actualized, it resulted in the formation of your world and 
many other worlds of potential in time and space.  

Thus the holy finger reached out and stirred the air bringing the potential 
to Urantia that we see realizing itself today in the formation today of the 
solid substance of your loyalty to that which is becoming real in a spiritual 
sense and which will have permanent effects on Urantia as well as in your own 
souls.  This creative force is brought to you by those power directors which 
provide the centrifugal force that throws off that which is unnecessary and 
the centripetal force which forces together those which can join compatibly 
as the basis of the world that you are creating.

That which will be throw off will be thrown off will be thrown off because it 
is not intended to be a part of the becoming.  Those of you who are forced 
together by this cosmic centripetal force are often in a place where you are 
unsure of how you connect with that piece or those pieces which you rub 
against.  And sometimes you say, "I'm not going to stay here where there is 
friction against me," "I'm not going to stay here where there is something 
poking me," "I'm not going to stay here where I have to listen to that."  "I 
am irritated and uncomfortable by that which is rubbing me the wrong way," 
but the cosmic centripetal force keeps you in check and in time it will come 
to pass that the rough edges will be worn down and the homogeneity of spirit 
will compose you such that you merge well with that which surrounds you.

This gives credence, over a period of time, over that force which connects 
you, even when you feel disconnected and would prefer that some of the pieces 
abutting you would go wafting off into outer space.  But look at those with 
whom you have found your niche.  Recognize the easy flow of communion, humor, 
and compassion that flashes back and forth between you, that connects you, 
that helps you recognize that you are all part of that circuit that keeps you 
together.  That circuit is enlarging daily.  The rough edges that you 
encounter, the elbows that dig into your side and the irritating noises that 
sound inharmonious to your ear, only indicate adjustments necessary in order 
for the parts to fit within the whole.  You are indeed creating a world, a 
world of spiritual reality, and in the cosmic sense, the solidifying of your 
faith and your friendship is as enduring and more so that the very ground you 
walk upon.  

We were joyed to participate this past weekend in the stirring, in the 
cooling and the congealing of the swirling energies that comprise this 
far-flung community.  Like pudding in a pot, we all came together, mortal and 
supernal, and allowed ourselves to be subjected to the heat that brought us 
to a boil and that softened our edges so that we were able to harmonize with 
each other in celebration of this sweet delight of our community.  All of us 
have come away, now, with a sense of rejuvenation and re-application to our 
purpose, our united purpose to advance Urantia and its citizens in the 
concepts of cosmic citizenry in the loving universe that we enjoy.

There were uncomfortable moments, there were irritating noises, and elbows 
poked in your sides.  There were concepts that grated your nerves and 
personalities that jangled your complacency, but we advance in good faith.  
Is there anything I can help you with now in terms of modulating your pitch 
to appreciate the harmonics of our movement?  Are there questions?

THOROAH: Personally I love the harmonics.  I don't know that I have any 
questions as regards the Conference.  

TOMAS: You are amiable and malleable.  Your mind has set off in the direction 
of antiquities and a study of racial origins.  You see how we all begin to 
feather our nests with that which is essential to our comfort, our instincts, 
and our civilization - that being our personal civilization.  

THOROAH: Well, I have lots of questions as far as origins.  

TOMAS: Perhaps I can shed some light; perhaps not. What do you seek to know?

THOROAH: A case in point would be the reference in the Urantia Book to the 
Nephilim -- who are referred to as the Nodites, parenthetically, one time, in 
the Urantia Book -- and I'm also reading about the Nephilim in other sources. 
 They were a recognized race – I guess I could say anthropologically as well 
as speculatively -- as being from someplace else, their origins being  
someplace else in the universe, such as another evolving race or another 
world, but specifically I'm thinking of the Anunnaki, the Nibiruans, and the 
Nephilim who are said to be the same race,  which makes the Nodites unique 
and it captured my interest.  I'm wondering about our off-world origins.  I 
know that with the Prince's staff that there were obviously off-world 
influences on our human race.  The Urantia Book does not go into detail as to 
where that staff came from and so I guess that's the mystery that I'm looking 
at right now.

TOMAS:  Well, you will not be surprised to learn that I am not authorized to 
discuss that element of your planetary history.  However, I am not going to 
discourage your investigations either.  The descendants of Nod indeed 
presented a race of people that were infused with the genetic influence of a 
life form not originating on Urantia and while their progeny are certainly a 
part of your composition, it remains true that your essential ancestors are 
well known throughout the universe as Andon and Fonta, the first two human 
beings to have been indwelt by a fragment of God and they were your true 
ancestors although the influence of the Planetary Prince's staff did affect a 
strain of genetic lineage which has been amalgamated into the basic 
evolutionary strains originating in the life pattern as was planted here by 
the Life Carriers so many millennia ago.

A study of the blending of the races, dispersion of the races, has much to 
offer in terms of under-standing much of your planetary history, its 
development/ evolution as creatures ascending/ evolving into beings capable 
of self-mastery and yet none of their influences are so dominant as to 
interfere with your own personal repleteness as a man among men.  

THOROAH: That's why I was rather hesitant to bring it up because it really 
has more to do with research and curiosity than it does with spiritual growth 
and ministry.

TOMAS: Yes, indeed, which is why I won't spend overmuch time there except to 
offer that the pages of the revelation provide great stimuli for thought.  
And if studied with an open mind, can provide you with many insights to 
contribute to the understanding of those who have developed theories along 
the lines you mentioned in such a way as to augment their theories by 
revelation; thus the overall history of the planet is gradually refined and 
understood from a broader perspective and your peoples become interwoven 
again in and through the spirit fibers that create the tapestry of humanity.  

Honest intellectual study is a good expansion of consciousness in that it 
will honor the efforts of those who have before studied and presented 
information, be it true or false or speculative.   If you were in fact to 
regard your contemporaries with the fascination and intrigue that you give 
your forebearers, you would get along much better and find far more delight 
in each other.  Every one brings something to the table.  Rather than say, 
"Well, I've never partaken of that before; I don't think I'll have any," 
expand your palate and accept the offering and having chewed and savored the 
morsel you will be able to better determine whether or not it is nutritious 
for you.  

At any rate it may give you a better understanding of your neighbor and a 
greater tolerance of human differences, cultural differences, even religious 
differences, which can give rise to theologic discussions that enhance and 
enlarge and further the minds' appreciation of how great an extent humanity 
has gone to grasp deity and how mysteriously deity works in the minds of 
humanity in introducing itself in ways that can be understood or utilized in 
the march toward enlightenment and subsequent loving service.

Yes, Paulo is here and he has received a question about Lucifer that he is 
willing to take on.  One moment, please.

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