[tmtranscripts] 7/14/01 SPOKANE TEACHER BASE (Part 2)
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Sat Jul 14 19:56:59 PDT 2001
PAULO: Paulo here. Good afternoon, my friends. It's good to be with you in
this format. I have with you enjoyed the events of late and the stimuli that
has come from your interchanges with others. I am always interested in
discussions that regard rebellion and the effects of rebellion and the
residue loyalty to rebellion that you carry in your hip pocket if not in your
genes.
I have been asked about Satan and Lucifer in terms of the Satanic cult and in
terms of the concept of Lucifer having been forgiven and further, the concept
of the Father's complicity in the rebellion as a result of His not
interfering with the Lucifer Manifesto.
This is probably too much to take on in one portion of an afternoon session
but I have a scope of response to present which does not get to the bottom of
the issue, no, and which will hopefully leave you all unsettled as to the
subject, but there is no way you can effectively be a fisher of men without
encountering these theories as they are very much a part of your legacy and
we certainly know about the reference to the devil as he is presented in
biblical terms but there are new perspectives on "the evil one" and the study
of the influence of evil upon humanity is at least as fascinating as your
genetic lineage, and so if you're looking for something to delve into as a
study in order to improve your connections with your brethren, as you whirl
your way around the mix into the center, consider that in all of those
aforementioned instances, it is and remains true that Lucifer is no longer
the entity he once was. He is as if he had never been.
If you conclude he has been forgiven, then, as anyone who has been forgiven
understands, a perception of humility is a natural result, and while it may
be a far stretch of the imagination to consider that Lucifer would be
contrite, it is the logical conclusion of that scenario, and indeed he is as
if he had never been, for that rebellion and defiance against the Father
would have subsided in his acceptance of the Father's blessing.
Let's consider the idea of Satan as a being emulating deity worthy of
worship, such as the Satanic cults engage in today as a response to the sects
of Christianity which have been found to be unacceptable by the one who
adopts the other side of the coin as a response, a rebellious and defiant
response, to the status quo which has left them wanting. Evil is a part of
ignorance. Evil is inherent in imperfection. It is the grasping of
imperfection/ evil, and elevating it to sin that begins the descent into
emotional and mental hell.
If, however, turning to Satan as a response to Christianity as a rebellious
attitude toward church authority, the statement is being made that the
personal connection between Father and child has been disrupted. In the
relationship between Father and child there is love. If the love has been
distorted through judgment, then the natural response is to pass your own
judgment, unless and until the light of truth enters in to soften your heart
and reveal again the connection with divinity that allows love to reign
supreme.
The concept of God being complicit in the rebellion because he did not
interfere with Lucifer's decisions, is a stretch. It's as easy to attain as
any, I suppose, if you're going to speculate on what that Great Divorce in
heaven was all about. But let's look at the idea of the family relation-ship
and give yourself the assigned role of the elder in the family, the patriarch
or matriarch of a large, industrious, affluent, and happy clan. Your role
with the clan has been established through many years. You have opted for a
policy of non-interference, just encouragement, and so your children and your
grandchildren and your great grandchildren have thrived under your
encourage-ment, and now you have a large, wonderful family.
Let's say that your grandson and daughter are well married, have children,
and you know that your grandson's wife is contemplating an affair. Even
though this realization causes you great emotional angst, it has been your
policy to not interfere in the workings of the family in the personal realm
and so you see the signs and yet you don't interfere. The woman has an
affair, the husband finds out, the divorce comes to pass. There is strife
The children are disrupted. And though they make good efforts to remain
friends and follow through with the values of life that you have instilled in
them, none-the-less, the children suffer as a result of the family breakdown
and for the first time in generations you find your great grandchildren
behaving in a delinquent manner and you fully appreciate that this has been
because of the emotional rift that occurred as a result of the woman's
infidelity.
Can you say that the family matriarch or patriarch was in compliance with the
woman's decision? Are they complicit? No. And neither was the Universal
Father complicit in Lucifer's rebellion. The great gift of God is free will,
and our great gift to Him is compliance with His will, which is greater. He
does not need to acquiesce to ours. He allows us to make our choices and
reap the rewards or experience the results by way of cause and effect.
The fact remains in all cases, "the evil one" is no more, and his direct
influence is gone from Urantia and all other areas of his one-time reign.
However, the effects of his decisions remain today, and herein is the great
lesson. The effects of your decisions have far-reaching ramifications.
Every time you choose to do your will over God's will, you are inviting a
distortion of the reality which is meant to be your inheritance.
Many of the things you experience these days in your world are residue
experiential from decisions made long ago. There is a saying in your
culture: "The sins of the parents are visited upon their children," and you
who are involved in the Correcting Time are in the position now of taking
responsibility for yourself henceforth, of drawing a line in the dirt between
you and your predecessors and saying, "The buck stops here. Henceforth, I
will follow the Lord. I will seek His will and follow it to the best of my
ability. I will recognize the error of my ways, of my conditioning, of my
intelligence, and correct myself so that I may better serve those who have
yet to go through the veil into the light that would have them purify
themselves also of that which has gone before and which leaves a residue upon
us as if it were smoke from a volcano dropping its ash everywhere.
Clear the air. Recognize evil as imperfection and error. Grasp truth,
beauty and goodness and yield to its power, its drawing power. There is no
rule that says you and/or Urantia have to stay in the dark, cleaning up the
debris of past ages and past error indefinitely. You can tilt the world on
its axis by your perception. Begin to see your world and everything in it
as if it were touched by the light, as if it had already been cleansed and
purged of all the error of history.
Every young thing makes mistakes in the process of learning how to become
mature. Put aside the things of your youth and embrace the fullness of your
spirit adulthood. Aspire for self-mastery and make yourself amenable to
those around you who are also attempting to become fishers of men, to clasp
to our breast those who search for truth, beauty and goodness in the hearts
of others in hope that they will find it, too, within themselves.
Even Lucifer and Satan and Caligastia and Dalagastia and the rebels - the
rebel angels and the rebel midwayers - were forgiven by the great heart of
God. You can forgive those who have gone before you and erred out of
ignorance. But you need not be complicit in the error by condoning the
error. Jesus taught to love the sinner and hate the sin. It's the sin that
we are trying to purge from Urantia - the error and evil of ignorance - in
particular when it is conscious.
I invite you to be aware of rebellion before it starts. Learn to recognize
the symptoms. Learn to see the malcontent in the eyes of the granddaughter
who thinks that happiness can be found in another's arms. Learn to discern
the self-aggrandizing who have become prideful and are beginning to believe
in themselves to the point that they have exalted themselves to be equal with
God.
Children will be children and they are entitled to play. They are entitled
to reach and fall, to giggle and stumble, but at some point they need to
learn to walk. Help them walk, and then walk beside them, as Jesus the
Master Son of this local universe works beside us all in our path, in our
efforts to be one with him in purpose, to give glory to the Eternal Parents
in Paradise. Let us not adulter and mingle with that which concerns us not,
but keep our eye on the pearl of great price.
I didn't infer, I hope, that I can't enjoy myself and you and the process of
learning and growing, in the process of attaining perfection.
TOMAS: This is Tomas again. I am glad of Paulo's appreciation of some of
these fields of thought which are not necessarily the kinds of thought I or
you come to. How refreshing it is to have the mind of one who is fearless
and unafraid of controversy, who truly takes the Kingdom by spiritual assault
in all its representations. To be able to discern good from evil is a
quality of perception attainment that is invaluable to you as a Kingdom
worker. To be able to discern the depth of perception, the quality of
concepts, and the degree of application, is a skill that only the individual
whose wisdom has been hammered on the anvil of experience can discern.
We all have our contributions to make.
I will leave you with these contributions for the afternoon, these
discussions that can lend you encouragement into the dimensions of thought
and perception ~ that reach back into history and deep into the psyche ~
that do not lie obvious on the surface ~ but call forth your deep mind and
your keen thinking to resolve. We'll see you next week. Farewell.
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