[tmtranscripts] N. Idaho Team 3/24/02

[Rick P. Giles]

North Idaho Teaching Mission Group
Topics: Forgiveness, Forgetting, God and Gender, Divine Mother
Teachers: Elyon, Nebadonia

March 24, 2002

*	Elyon (Jonathan TR):  Greetings, my friends, this is Elyon.  I have the
pleasure to speak with you again.
	It is my turn to interject some thoughts into your discussion of
forgiveness and forgetting.  You have intrigued me by your comments.  Your
discussion has been thorough in its broad grasp, for you have considered the
small offense and the at least potential larger offending episodes that require
forgiveness.  You are among many who are being trained to function with a
morontia sensitivity, that level of functionality which is commonplace in the
life levels you will experience when you leave the Urantia living laboratory. 
This function you are adopting will profoundly influence the planet's progress
toward Light and Life.  You are grouped with those who are the precursors.
	With that in light, let me provide you another viewpoint of forgiveness and
forgetting, and that is perhaps best grouped into the word "preparedness".  If I
may drop the "for-" in each word, we perceive giving and getting.   If we
look at
the "for" and call it "before", "afore", and re-link that with giving and
getting
it brings a twist, a different light, to understand these concepts.  You
spiritual trainees are getting beforehand the comprehension, the compassion, the
wisdom, the kindness, and the service motivation which allow you to be available
to another as a friend, as a spiritual brother or sister, regardless of the
mistakes of time and the imperfections of personality in this life.  You are
equipping yourself with the ability beforehand to give healing ministry, to give
yourself sympathetic understanding of innocent offenses where intention and
result were severed, where intention did not desire the apparent result.  It is
that divine perspective, that parental understanding of the immaturity of the
creature.
	You have spoken well about the mechanisms of forgiving and how it is
applicable as the need arises, as events take place that cause personalities to
be in conflict, to be hurt or offended.  These comments do well to be applied
when these episodes transpire.  To be better forgiving, to be able to get over
the complication, I encourage you to continually be getting and giving that
morontia quality, that transcendent spiritual comprehension, that loving
connectivity which will make the specific encounters frictionless, as you
respond
in a manner that conforms to your ideals of conflict resolution and brotherly
relationship.
	The Father has forgiven before you seek forgiveness, and this forgiveness
of the Father is this "afore-giving", for bestowed upon you is the spark of His
essence dwelling in you.  You have been given a Creator Son and a Mother Spirit
who have bestowed upon you echelons of counselors who are eager and ever
ready to
equip you with the spiritual abilities for ascension and deeper meaningful
relationship.  This is the forgiveness that precedes offense.  You are able to
give this to your fellows by loving them even while you yet do not know them. 
So, though you may for all of your life be unable to forget an episode that has
offended, if you beforehand reach to your brother or sister you will receive
them
with forgiveness and acceptance and love.
	That is about all I have to add to your conversation today.

	Evelyn:  We read earlier a letter from a group member who after conveying
her thanks to the teachers asked, when we talk about God the Father, where
is the
Mother?  Why is there no reference to them both in the same sentence, like, "The
Mother and Father send their love"?  Are they not getting along?  Do they not
enjoy acting in concert?  Are they having relationship problems like the rest of
us?  Have they ever been estranged?  Is there any connection between their
ongoing relationship and the difficult union between human men and women?
	Would you address these things in a way that might be serviceable to this
person?
*	Elyon:  Yes.  First I acknowledge and receive her praise and thankfulness
for the efforts of my associates and myself in being of service to this
world and
to the humans who are in my jurisdiction, if I may use that term.  It is the
very
reason for our presence on this planet, to be uplifting to you, to aid you in
sorting through the difficulties of your comprehension of the nature of universe
function, personal relationships, and your relationship with the divine.
	Our universe is complex.  God, being one who precedes everything,
inherently contains everything.  Nothing exists without source, and if
source did
not contain within it that which is manifested as thing, it would not be. 
Therefore, God is both Father and Mother as one, yet God precedes even these
distinctions.  Therefore you  could say He is neither.  However, to a creature
endowed with personality who resonates with love and hungers for relationship,
"father" and "mother" minister to the soul as words that bring endearment,
affection, and the sense of care and unconditional ministry.  Naturally your
world has not been educated in the ways of ideal family life, and so you have
examples of flawed relationships between parent and child, between spouses. 
These naturally are reflected by the human mind upon an incomplete understanding
of higher universe relationships.
	In your investigation of the Creator, over time you will discern that
estrangement between the masculine or feminine qualities of deity could not be,
for these distinctions are meaningful only to beings who are within the
universal
levels of duality, duality that is reflected even on your world in the form of
male and female.  Those creator personalities nearer to you, Michael and
Nebadonia, are the projections and personalized, localized reflections of your
Paradise Creator.  They are perfect.  They have compassion, mercy, love for one
another that is beyond the ability of the human to understand even using those
words you are familiar with.  I, as a teacher assigned to this group, have been
instructed and rehearsed regarding the very real potential for misunderstanding
and misappropriating my lessons to you by you.  The language I speak to you
today
is the language that you have been brought up with.  It is the language of
comfort, for you are most familiar with this language.  It is your
responsibility
as a world to develop and refine the word database you have to more accurately
portray universe reality as you discover it.  We could refer to the First Source
and Center in a neutral and, to the personality, cold term, and it would appeal
to the higher intellect who is constructing a philosophy devoid of the flaws of
terms that would seem to limit and constrict the manifestations of God.  But the
human soul longs for the warmth of relationship.  So, as your social structures
upon this world have developed family, those who come to this world to
reveal the
light of truth are using existing structures, and we are using your existing
language.  We do not intend to teach that God is masculine nor feminine.  We
intend to convey love and divine overcare, the kind that is exemplified by a
parent to the child.
	As you continue your studies of the lessons we present, you will see over
time that the individuals through whom we contact you will color the meaning of
the lesson by the words of their minds.  I cannot paint an oil painting if my
painter's box is full of watercolors, but I can do a watercolor drawing if I
have
watercolors.  Every TR is a medium that I use and all my associates use to paint
our picture lessons.  You will see different terminology depending upon the
individual through whom we contact you.
	I hope this has been helpful.  We value your questions.  They are the
exciting aspect of our contact with any one of you.

*	Nebadonia (Mark):  I sense the appropriate timing for my presence.  This,
my children, is your mother.  I come among you at this time to call to your
recognition, my dear ones, that I am all around you, in fact, I support you,
each
one, with your very nourishment, your sustenance.  It is as though I surround
your very being within my womb.  You are completely supported by me.  We are so
close as to almost be indistinguishable by you in this life.  The unborn
does not
know of the difference between self and the mother.  This is how close we are. 
Until you become more matured and become an infant will you begin to draw some
distinction between you and me.  That is how close we are.
	Do not concern yourselves with the apparent lack of reference.  I am not
concerned with such matters.  I know of the bond we share as do you.  It
does not
concern me at this time that we do not express ourselves of complete
recognition. 
We know of the connection, of the bond, that we share between each other.  You
have a sense of my support for your very life and your very sustenance.  Without
me your material self simply could not exist.  It is my joy to have this
privilege in time with you to carry you each with me, to support you, to provide
your entire environment conducive to the living of your life.
	We are so close as to be indistinguishable by you at this time; therefore
we make reference often to an outside source.  We call this the Father.  This is
merely an attempt to use your language and your concept frame to draw your
attention to the fact that there are sources outside yourselves.  As you mature
spiritually you become able to grasp that there are diverse sources outside
yourself, and you will come to identify me as clearly as any other, in fact, in
all time and space no matter what approach you use to discover spirit, I will be
with you in this approach.  I am the path.
	 Also I wish to convey to this questioner the peace, that there is not
turmoil in the heavens over this differentiation, that many factors found in
human life and human society are not accurate reflections of the divine
pattern. 
They are occurrences in time and space on the evolutionary pass toward
perfection, but they do not represent the divine pattern, much as your wars do
not reflect divine love and mercy.  You must see these as temporal steps, as
intermediate changes in your progression toward divine pattern.
	I welcome any attempts on your part to approach me as an external presence,
as something separate yet a part of you.  I will make every attempt to make my
presence more fully known to you, however, you cannot escape my presence. 
Whereas other external presences may be missed or misinterpreted, I am the fluid
that surrounds you in the womb, and I am the womb.  You cannot escape the fact
that we are linked.  I am more than pleased to be this to you.  I bring you such
great love as my little ones.  It is my pleasure to nourish you as you grow.  I
am not concerned that you do not know me, because you actually know me better
than all other presences.  It is simply of you to draw a line of distinction
between yourself and myself.
	I hope this helps to bring us closer together.  It is my sincere desire
that you recognize my loving embrace more regularly and see me as the loving,
nurturing influence I am already in your lives.  I bring you my peace and my
love
as well.  Thank you.

	Jonathan:  The manifestation of the divine is so thorough in reaching to
creatures that you are so much a part of us we can't see it.  As we grow we
discern your creator presence and our creature presence and appreciate our
relationship on the motherly side.  On the fatherly side, we grow toward a being
we at first conceive of as being distant, that Father Fragment, until we
eventually fuse and become one.  We are one, discern our differences, then come
into unity.  It's beautiful.

*	Nebadonia:  Truly a magnificent plan and truly magnificent to see the
fruits of your spirit in expressing your grasp of this plan.  Even as you
perceive it at this time, it is so much more, so much grander than your concept
frames allow you to embrace.  But the tip of the iceberg that you have seen and
so eloquently stated is indeed magnificent; just left for you to imagine
what the
rest of the iceberg must be like.

*	Elyon (Jonathan):  This is Elyon.  You are in a unique position of physical
form aspiring to the higher level just beyond this evolutionary life you are in
now.  I am one who has been traversing this higher level, the morontia realm. 
Our Michael and our Mother are spirit beings.  I do not compare with these
personalities.  Just as I seem ethereal and intangible to you due to the
difference in the reality levels that we each function on, these two creator
parents are even more finely rarifiedly spiritual than myself or you and make us
two look closer together.  But these two beings are so approachable you need not
an introduction nor an invitation from any other source.  Their arms are open
wide.  The quality of their spiritual natures is such that they penetrate all
levels below spirit: my realm of morontia, your realm of matter.  They reflect
our future attainment; our status as perfected beings will manifest their
qualities.  I seek it with all my soul.  I encourage you to seek it ever and
always.  As our Mother has told us today, she will be with us to make this
occur.
	Cherish your time upon this world.  Relish your relationships with one
another.  Seek the divine, knowing full well the divine has already found
you and
will do everything required to reveal to you the relationship that exists
already
between your creator and your being.