[tmtranscripts] Colo. Spgs. 7/5/1994

[Roxanne Andrews]

Group:         Colorado Springs Group

 

Topics:        Celestial / Mortal interaction

                    General Council of the Urantia Fellowship

                    A calming of the waves

                    Group desires action

                    Fellowship as an action

                    Unity as an experience

                    Patience and forbearance on a personal level

 

Teachers:   Risdon (TR's Daniel & Paul), Mother Spirit (TR, Don)  

                    Please Note:  Don usually TRs in a paraphrasing mode.

 

July 5, 1994, transcribed in August 2003.  [This is a new posting.]
 

Daniel:  Heavenly Father/Mother/God we call upon and invoke your presence here to fill each one of us, within us, that we might become glowing beacons of your revealed word.  We sanctify this time, dedicate it to your will and we also will that your will be done through us, that we might be perfect voices, instruments of your words, that your intent come through clearly to guide us and those who might hear or read these words.  Thank you so much for your presence here.

 

Robbie:  I'm getting a kind of pale, aqua/blue; I'm not sure who it is; it's not very strong.

 

RISDON / TR Daniel:  Greetings, this is Risdon.  (Hello, Teacher, welcome.)  Before asking me to come here tonight, I have been here all along, of course; this is an abode that I stay within, most of the time.  You have covered many topics tonight, many which have been of interest to us.  Your movies still puzzle us; why you humans would want to be frightened or to occupy your time with mayhem and distress and obliteration of your race is difficult for us to understand, though we think (more than "think") it has to do with your animal natures of survival and the need to be on guard, all the time.  This will be something that you must get used to in this lifetime and in a number of lifetimes on the morontial worlds, your feelings of being plagued by difficulties, your standardized paranoia of your society will be with you a long time.  You have this in your animal bodies now, you will carry it forward in the lesser energy level of your morontial nature, so we urge you to occupy your time of thinking with positive, constructive, peaceful and peace generating, joyous enterprises and entertainment.

 

Daniel:  He says, "I think that's enough for now; I'm going to go to someone else."

 

Risdon, this is Daniel.  I thank you for speaking through me now.

 

RISDON / TR Paul:  This is Risdon.  (Greetings, Friends)  I am open to questions.

 

Daniel:  The activities in Boulder with Aruna, [spiritual name, ed.], TRing the Melchizedeks-could you comment on that please?

 

RISDON:  She is a dear daughter; she has her own mission to fulfill in her own way.  I am not privy to the specifics of her interaction with the Melchizedeks.  I am confident that only good will come out of her activities, whatever they may be.

 

Daniel:  Risdon, I am very glad to see that there are alternative plans afoot, I know there are many to introduce the Teaching Mission to Boulder and into other areas of the world, and so I definitely will follow these events and see how they do, and wish Eric well in working with her and the Boulder Urantia group.

 

What do you know about what changes are afoot, or what efforts has the Teaching Mission put forth regarding the General Council of the Urantia Fellowship that Paul is a part of; I know this may be difficult for Paul, but I think it's not so hot that he couldn't hear something?

 

RISDON:  Yes, the Fellowship Council has little to do with the Teaching Mission.  This is likely to stay the same for time being.  There is too much timidity in the leadership of the Council to take a pro-active stand of any kind at this time.  There will come a time when the leadership of the General Council will change into the hands of a more active leader who is either part of the Teaching Mission or quite amenable to it.  At that time, which may occur within the next two or three years, there will be a dramatic opening up of the General council to the idea and activities of the Teaching Mission, but I would not expect this at any time in the immediate future.

 

Daniel:  Thank you.  The function of this group has remained the same, it has been like an administrative adjunct to the Teaching Mission in this area-will this change in the future, do you think?  And when?

 

[This is Paul.  All I am getting is "No."]

 

Daniel:  (Laughing.)  I thought that would be the answer.

 

Robbie:  Is there anything additional that we need to add to our agenda?

 

[This is Paul again.  All I'm getting is, "Not at this time."]

 

RISDON:  If there are no other questions, I pass the baton to one who wishes to speak through Don at this time.

 

Don:  I'll just have to say what's coming up, I guess.  If one were to have a liquid, colorful kaleidoscope and then if that viewing of the colorful kaleidoscope were to be smoothed out and then evened out and almost to the point of disappearance, that the energy is present here, I've never seen it before.  Don't know who it is or what it is, it's like a peacemaker maybe -I don't know.

 

Daniel:  That's very, uh.Mother Spirit stuff.  (Who?)  Creative Daughter Spirit stuff, I mean this pervasive stuff-energy-you know, the Creative Daughter Spirit, the Conjoint Actor of Christ Michael, the Co-creator of this Local Universe?

 

Don:  Creative Daughter? (Daniel:  Divine Minister-same thing.)  Okay.  (Daniel:  Oh, I see, you're mulling it over.  How does it feel?)  Yeah, and it does have a feminine quality; it is a ministering activity like a peacemaker.  (Robbie:  Nurturer?)  Yes.  Well no.(Daniel:  Spirit of Peace?)  That doesn't feel right.  I don't know that this is as much a feeling as a calming of the waves, and energy muffled, or the smoothing of the wrinkles of life, or something like that.  And it is available for ministering.  I guess that means questions.

 

Daniel:  Dear Spirit, our group has seemed to come into a period of malaise, of drifting, and I think we are all a bit agitated by that, as we seek change, growth and deliberation.  Is this a time of deliberation between those periods, or is there something you could bring to this situation for us?

 

Don:  Accounting of success by means of action is the source of malaise.  I didn't hear that-I guess I don't need to.  It is like there is a desire for there to be, from the other side, a fostering of the fellowship aspect  (Eric:  Has something to do in this group?  Is your answer part of that earlier question?  I'm sorry-I'm just seeking clarification.)  Yeah, I don't understand the question.  I don't understand your question, Eric.  

 

Eric:  The response that you are giving for the group for greater socialization, was-brother Daniel has asked a question about the direction of this group and that there was some discomfort associated with a sense of not knowing whether we should be-I guess I extend that question of my own accord.  I suppose that some of our fear might be that if we don't seem to be any more this week than we were two months ago, that our fear is that we ourselves are not advancing, in fact the case may be seen totally different from your perspective, and I think that that is what we are trying to determine.  So if you could illuminate us with your perspective of whether this group is functioning desirably and..hey, if the answer is just keep on doing what you're doing, then I'm happy with that too.  Does that make more sense?

 

Don:  I'm going to try to let this being sort it out.  There still is an encouragement to foster the aspect of fellowship, and it does not mean socialization.  It's like a coming together; it is like a "closening up" of the group of the circle.  It's a willing, sharing of. the words sound real negative; the image is of taking a weight upon my shoulder and putting it upon somebody else's shoulder, and then that's a common activity, and when the weight is put on somebody else's shoulder, it goes away, and so there's a willingness to carry and share each other's mistakes.  I guess that's the best way of saying it.  (Robbie:  Carrying each other's burdens?)  Except that it isn't "carried," in the sharing of it, it goes away, in acceptance of it, it dissipates.  It's like the circle-it's really, really, really tight, and now there's reference back to the first sentence that I didn't hear.  (Robbie:  I can give that to you possibly.  "The measurement of success by action is the reason for our malaise."  "The measurement of our success by action, in other words, our effort to measure success by action is the reason for our malaise.)  Yeah, that makes sense.  So I guess the suggestion is to release the notion of having something to do, as opposed as having something to be with each other.  I think you are asking how this compares with individual development, character?

 

Eric:  You've fully answered my question.  I suppose the last piece was I was inquiring initially as to whether or not this engaging in more fellowship was in fact, the answer in terms of something we could "do", the doing of the sharing of each of us with each other, was the answer to the question.

 

Robbie:  May I ask-I've had this thought several times and are we in fact, kind of a training ground that came to us after Orr-El told us "Hello and Goodbye" after their graduation.  Is that one of the things we are doing, is providing a human training ground for those going out on their mission?

 

Don:  I get a "yes."  And a valuable service rendered thereby.  It's because we have given that permission, that service will be rendered, regardless of the activity that we have going on, or don't have going on.  The dynamics and inter-relationship of our activity as a group is observed and noted and remembered.  The different dynamics that are involved in moments of discord and moments of "electricity," or moments of coming together, offer the same service, it's something that happens in the music, so it doesn't matter.

 

Daniel:  Well, dear spirit, there is a situation here I am seeking aid with and I think this is-well it's a reality for me-that I do not feel that my presence here is assisting the spiritual growth of others on either side, and I don't feel that being here is assisting me.  Now this may be erroneous, but this is how I feel, and I'm feeling very uneasy about that, as I'd like to continue to grow, and also I like to contribute and serve.  I don't know what to do with that!

 

Don:  You are experiencing the end of a cycle of advancement and the next step. (Pause).

 

Daniel:  The spirit that talks about the "next step" is just saying that there is a next step; that does offer hope.

 

Don:  Well, I'm in resistance to it.  I have long believed that.I was expecting something else.so anyways, the indication I'm receiving is, if I get the image right is, is that the next step is not here.

 

Daniel:  Well, I think that I am going to be on the road, teaching.

 

Don:  There is no timeline picturing that nature.

 

Daniel:  Thank you spirit, I appreciate that.

 

Eric:  This is .(inaudible). how traveling salesmen get.

 

Daniel:  Well, it's not traveling salesman either!

 

Eric:  But traveling to do the work of the Lord.

 

Don:  There's a sense of kind of a richness of experience there, I believe.

 

Daniel:  It would be much appreciated.

 

Don:  And there is a long pathway.

 

Eric:  My guides last year told me I would be doing a lot of traveling.  They were right.  How do you feel about that?  Traveling?

 

Daniel:  Great!  Cool.  Divine Minister, I have felt within the last few weeks a very strong connection with you and your consciousness, and I have not been able to define it-not that it necessarily has to be defined-I don't quite know what this is about-I would like to have some disclosure from you about that if that is possible?

 

Don:  Yes, you will know my presence by the absence of definition.  It's like all the definitions are being molded together, smoothed out so it becomes a [homogeneous,] integrative, unifying kind of thing instead of quantifying, separating.

 

Daniel:  It's interesting-I see her now!  Well, I do seek your guidance, and wisdom.  I know you are Divine Intelligence, Universe Intelligence and I ask for your guidance as I ask it for my fellows here too.

 

Don:  I never thought about the "unity" kind of experiences being like a big eraser.  It's like taking a concrete smoothing trowel or a drywall-smoothing trowel, and running it across the palette of an oil paint artist, and just kind of working it around, only it turns white instead of turning black.  (Daniel:  Sounds good to me!)  It's really a neat feeling, very smooth and quiet and peaceful.  And there's a sense that there are some other waves that might be able to do with some smoothing, if there is a desire for it.  She's not ready to go away, in other words.

 

Daniel:  Well, I've raised enough.

 

Eric:  I can identify with that, when I'm going to work in the morning, I pause to put my palm down into the lawn and feel the earth's energy ground me and smooth out my rough edges.

 

Robbie:  We have lots of ways for her to smooth energy for a long time.

 

Paul:  Well dear one, for Robbie we continue to be in the lawsuit.  Is there any chance that's going to conclude?  Ever?  Anytime soon?

 

Don:  The image that's here is one of very gently, rolling-I can't think of anything that would do it-well if you were to hold up a blanket, like a thin blanket and just move it back and forth, gently, and then put that up horizontal-that action is the image that is here-kind of a gentle, sine wave, flowing of energy.  I'm sorry, I don't get anything specific.  Maybe the answer to your question is to melt into that kind of a rocking-very soothing-I wish I could describe it better.

 

Robbie:  She should tell us to calm down.

 

Don:  I'm not getting anything direct like that, it's just this presence of this waving energy, and it's everywhere-it's almost like it's every thing-that's certainly suggested.  It's just that because the question was asked, that this image is here.  There isn't anything of a directive that's involved in this.

 

Paul:  Perhaps since our fate is this particular situation is so interlinked with that of so many other people, all who have been actors in this play.um, maybe there's a kind of general "calming down of all the people involved" going out.

 

Daniel:  Are you saying, Divine Minister, that your presence all over the world is causing or creating a calming effect of discord?

 

Don:  It's a calming presence.  It often does not have the affect, but it is an available presence-a very loving, available presence of smoothing jagged edges.  The energy-there's not so much wave action now, it's slowing down to just a smoothness, quiet, and an invitation to be part of it.  It permeates everything, every situation, and every circumstance.  Permeate isn't the word-penetrate is better, some how.  Yeah because it is not all encompassing-it's like a permeation would be, or like a Father would be-it has distinction, so that when you touch it, it is much more noticeable, it has boundary, and yet at the same time, it's available anywhere, all the time.  That's weird!

 

Daniel:  Specifically general.

 

Don:  Right.  Dead center of an infinite circle, everywhere.  There's nothing more.

 

Daniel:  Okay.

 

Paul:  Well, thank you.

 

Don:  I don't know if that closes the evening or not.  The presence is still here, but there is no action.

 

RISDON/ Daniel:  This is Risdon.  You have had a wonderful, intimate demonstration of the Divine Minister's participation in your lives, in these few minutes, this evening.  This is a lesson that is ever-present with you throughout the day.  The Divine Minister pervades, penetrates all and is available specifically to you.  You may call upon her for assistance in situations that are unfathomable, indeterminate and difficult to understand.  I have . [He's much more definite in his speech than I am.]  Thank you for being here tonight. Your presence is not worthless; it is not a waste of time for any of you.  You are great aids to us, as we are to you; we are complements and through your participation, we are able to co-create the earthly world, as it will be.  

 

We trust of you to share yourselves authentically, both within your minds and with your brothers and sister.  We need your continued dedication to this effort, to assist us in teaching new teachers, training new teachers who would come here.  Not all groups are as open or as amenable to the indeterminateness of your meetings.  You may think that they are purposeless, that they are not "doing" anything, but simply by your sincere intent to be here and participate you have an energy to co-create both.  We love you.  You have asked us not to pat you on the back and ruffle your heads very often; we have missed that-and I think it's time to ruffle your heads!  And I hug each one of you rather brusquely and strongly, jocularly-and I look into your eyes and I see wonderful beings of great potential, loving individuals who have grown so much in many ways unknown to yourselves.  You have added much to your souls and to the growth of your souls through your decisions that you have made, through almost unconscious, little decisions and thoughts and attitudes that you have brought into being through your actions.  You are truly demonstrating that which will become prevalent on your planet.  Had we more families as yours, this would be accomplished very quickly.  Unless there are questions, I will bid my good byes this evening.  I will remain with you if you wish to speak with me individually.  If there are questions, please ask them.

 

Robbie:  Risdon, I will ask the question Paul asked the Spirit.  Is there any word in our lawsuit appeal?

 

RISDON:  This is a playing field with many involved.  [He's not being coy, but he's not being definitive either.  Let me paraphrase it for him-it's without words here:  We generally know when it will be done; it continues on past what we had hoped it would.]  Do not enter into this activity for your growth or lessons.  This is a perpetuation of  [Oooh, it's gnarly!] another situation development, enterprise, which has continued on through momentum we had wished would have dissipated long ago.  I know that you will survive the interim until it is finished.  You have heard these words, "patience and forbearance," and they are ever needful, even now.  I wish not to project a date, as it causes as much or more confusion as what you feel now.  We are into a phase of damage control with you people.  We love you; we do not wish you further difficulties or turmoil in your lives.  

 

The Melchizedeks have brought much pressure to bear upon this situation, and it is because of that, that it is ending now; had it not, you would have wished you were on a cross next Easter too.  But it will be done long before that.  There is "thanksgiving," if you see it in that perspective, however when you have lived as you have lived, up in the air [I see a picture of Paul up on a coat hook] you have had a difficult life indeed.  Please do not blame us-we wish we had manifest events that you could see and give thanksgiving for-I know how difficult it is for you to give thanksgiving for that which you do not see, nor the events which will not take place or the longevity of these difficult times.  They are not evident; it is difficult for you to give thanks for that which is not evident.  Blessings to you, my children.  I love you, I sincerely do.  I care about you and I ask our Father's blessing upon you each day.  We too, enter into that activity.  (Tape ended.)

 
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