[tmtranscripts] Lightline 3/10/05 Anatolia - Be Carriers of Light and Life

[Kelly O'Hara]

LightLine Teleconference March 10, 2005

Teacher: Anatolia

Transmitter: Willie Verhoff

Subject: Be Carriers of Light and Life

*Willie*: Let us place ourselves in the presence of Jesus the Christ. 
Master teacher we come to you tonight as students in a world that still 
needs to be taught lessons of love, openness, acceptance and sibling 
love that needs to be adopted in as many heats as possible. And we 
ourselves are among those that ask to and seek to have our hearts made 
supple, open and loving toward all that we meet. And we ask for love in 
our lives in particular ways that can be shared without reservation for 
our individual perspective and benefit for the benefit of everyone else 
that we encounter.

We ask for a teacher who will be with us tonight, who will present the 
lessons of love as you presented them, and as we strive to adopt them in 
our lives individually and collectively. And for this and all else that 
you know in our hearts and our minds which we ask for you to address 
this and all things in you and in our Creator, heavenly Father, we place 
ourselves in loving service now and always. Amen.

Anatolia is here.

*Anatolia*: Good evening, my children in the light. I am your teacher, 
Anatolia, who is with you tonight once again in appreciation for your 
time and the interest that you bring to these gatherings. I know, as all 
of us as teachers know, that whenever you set the time aside to be a 
student of life and light, we are always grateful to receive two or more 
of you who have open hearts and open minds for this that we wish to 
bring to you as further insight in the mysteries of living a life of love.

I wish to bring you also just an added note that in general applies to 
all of the teachings of the Teaching Mission. And it simply addresses 
one of the criticisms of this activity that we have never pretended nor 
proposed that what we bring to you in terms of messages in any way 
replaces or supplants that of scripture or of the Urantia Book. Our 
intention is not to override, but only to add further insight and to 
make practical the lessons of love that we, as those who have been 
before you, can most ably bring to your awareness and reinforcement in 
terms of where you are going, as we are able to do.

Also, as you know, we have the blessing of our universe Creator, 
Michael, as our director of activities under the orchestration of 
Machiventa. And through Abraham, Ham and the teacher corps we are able 
to bring you insightful and accepted teachers that are part of this 
illustrious gathering, which has as its heart’s desire to help usher in 
life and light into your world that continues to scream for attention 
and orderliness. To a large degree, much of the activity that is 
occurring in your world is like that of a screaming child somewhere in 
the range of five years old, knowing better to a large degree that such 
activity or such behavior is unbecoming of a child of God. Even a five 
year old, for the most part, knows this to be the case, even though five 
is actually a little young for the age of reason, it is nevertheless not 
unreasonable to assume that a five year old, for the most part, knows 
what he or she is doing.

In like manner, for the type of activity that is occurring in your world 
that has been of major debate within the past several years, essentially 
from the point of view of an American foreign policy that has been 
aggressive as a way of describing it. And the rest of the world who has 
been slow to anger, and otherwise unwilling to totally accept, yet not 
come to the point of being able to unite against such behavior, is more 
or less waiting in the wings to see whether such tantrums become more 
dramatic and more threatening. So it is not as if the rest of your world 
is unaware or disinterested in what is happening in your world. It is 
simply that there is too much at stake, or self interest, which keeps 
some of the other large powers from getting directly involved or 
embroiled in world tensions.

So I urge you to continue to show interest and concern. Never let down 
your guard in terms of being open to a loving and living spirit within 
yourselves that can flow through you to the rest of the world that will 
help open hearts and minds throughout the world.

As the tsunami experience had done to a large degree, once again united 
the world in an effort that reminded everyone of how gentle and tenuous 
life on this planet can be, and that everyone could be affected by 
something unpredictable and life threatening at any moment, and for the 
care and concern of those thousands that did lose their lives that day. 
Only after the anniversary of your celebration of our Master’s birth did 
we find such a horrible experience, some of which were powerful stories 
of both survival and helping one another through such a terrible 
experience.

So while there is reason for concern that your world is embroiled in 
tension that does not seem to lessen, there are examples of where it is 
yet encouraging, and there are reasons to be proud that you are among 
the human race, and among the creation that our Master Christ Creator 
enabled to be part of our experience.

For whatever happens in one world does affect the other, much the same 
as what affects one member of the family, even though that member may 
not be even in your household or same city as yourself, does 
psychologically or spiritually affect other members of the family, as 
well as extended family. So if something shocking, surprising happens to 
a family member, even at some distance, it is not as if it does not have 
an effect upon those other members directly, indirectly, or 
psychologically and spiritually. Consequently, so too it is with your 
solar system and the galaxy in which you live, the surrounding galaxies, 
your system, your constellation, etc. on up the scale or stairway of 
progression. The action of one affects all others.

So this is why I encourage you to keep, first of all, achieve, maintain 
and increase your ability to be of sound mind, body and soul, now today 
and every day, so that you can do your part to add to the building up of 
the kingdom of God. As you know, as is illustrated in the good books, 
that the kingdom of God is a state of mind, a state of being, and a 
state of progression for you and for the rest of creation. It is not 
necessarily from the outset the perfection that we all aspire to. But 
rather the kingdom of God within that you currently experience, live 
within and aspire to. It is a state of mind, a state of being that each 
and all are called to, to be aspirants or students, living examples of 
the word and to be those who are practitioners of and teachers of the 
way of the kingdom. So all are encouraged to be of this nature and this 
example.

I am covering ground that is not new, of course, is primarily 
traditional Christianity, as well as those concepts which are further 
illustrated within the Urantia Book. It is these concepts that I am 
discussing tonight only to reinforce a perspective that will help you 
gain further insight into your daily activities. Primarily, however, to 
reinforce that this is where we suggest you apply your efforts to 
maintain this type of perspective within yourself that can affect the 
world around you. It is this perspective that presumably you have all 
begun to develop, that you know that you are children of God. You are 
reality presentation of your spirit’s creation made manifest here in 
this world, which is the world of the cross, which your celebration of 
the passion and Holy Week will be forthcoming in the near future.

It is this example of what your master teacher and your Creator Son made 
known both to your world and to his universe, of what the extent of love 
can demonstrate and produce for a world that for the most part did not 
want to hear, or see, or experience what he had to teach. However, there 
was certainly a group large enough that, actions being what they were, 
and courses taking the direction as they did, that was significant 
enough that brought to you the faith that you now live today. It is this 
continuation of faith, the links between pre and post Christ Michael on 
your planet, that is the link to being able to be Christ-like inasmuch 
as you can, as well as to eventually become Christed as you seek to 
become. It is this lesson of love that was demonstrated, and the 
relationship that was established, and presented as an example of the 
relationship that Jesus had with our Father God, and the relationship 
that was demonstrated that each of us can have with him, as well as our 
Father God, to be able to help bring this world into life and light.

So I simply have the message tonight of reinforcement of that which is 
real and true and needs to be encouraged within your hearts and mine, to 
be able to be the light that is so necessary within your immediate and 
your expanded world. I have other subjects which I can address, however 
this is my basic message to reinforce within you these messages of being 
carriers of the life and light desire that we all aspire to, and to not 
lose sight in your day to day life and activities that this goal and 
eventual reality not be lost in the confusion of everyday life.

I am certainly willing and would desire to answer questions, ask for 
expansion of any of these ideas, or different subjects that you may have 
in mind. I will do my best to address. So let’s open this up for any 
question or discussion that you may have. Anyone?

*Gerdean*: I have something, Anatolia, if no one else is pressing. This 
morning on my way to work, I was listening to a half hour program about 
this company out of Texas that has been doing a thriving business over 
in Galloping Grants, the native American capitals of our state, and 
other places in the state where they charge exorbitant rates to give you 
your pending paycheck in advance. I forget what it’s called, but it’s 
like fast cash, and they hook the poor. The poor are very vulnerable to 
this because they eat from hand to mouth, day to day, payday to payday. 
It does not matter whether it is through their fault or not; that’s the 
condition of the life they are in until at least they get out of it. I 
was listening to the panel, and one of the guys, the lawyer for the 
company, was talking and my ear was suddenly aware of what he was doing. 
He was talking about the letter of the law, but he was not addressing 
the spirit of the law, at least that is how I interpreted it. I just 
find the practice despicable, how people can take advantage of the less 
fortunate, and how people in power continue to thrive by manipulating 
the masses. It just makes me so angry.

Today, just to add to that, a couple of the civil lawyers that I work 
for announced that they had just lost a pro bono case that they had just 
done regarding a domestic violence situation where this woman was 
stalked. They lost the case because there was not evidence, and that 
makes me angry. I am not an angry person, and I kind of like feeling 
this. It enlivens me; it takes me out of my complacence. It, as you say, 
opens my eyes to a 24 x 7 perspective of work that needs done, of 
correcting the needs addressed.

*Anatolia*: Great examples of correcting time activity.

*Gerdean*: I am not sure what my question is, except that I am probably 
concerned about acknowledging, admitting and not being ashamed about 
being angry about things. Its not like I’m losing sleep over it, or that 
it’s going to impact my loving relationships with people. But what do I 
do with that energy? It makes me want to do something.

*Anatolia*: I can simple advise you to, initially when you hear such 
things, if you aren’t flash angry, but rather it builds, at whatever 
point that you feel the sense of being incensed, that you begin to feel 
the anger, ask, direct or request that Christ Michael be open to 
accepting your anger, and to direct it to those who need help for 
getting out of such entrapment, to help those individuals find a way to 
get out of those entrapping situations.

*Gerdean*: Know, Anatolia, that I have a prayerful attitude in the first 
place, otherwise I wouldn’t even care. So I am 24 x 7 spiritual 
perspective, thinking about and concerned about, and focusing the benign 
virus on the situation. And I trust that I will either be led to do 
something or I will be gently led to relax, whichever and whenever that 
is appropriate. This is not an emotional outburst. This is a slow, deep, 
deep concern about values, about how we treat our fellows.

*Anatolia*: Correct. And the example presented was simply a 
recommendation, naïve perhaps, but to one who would otherwise not 
already be open to such outlets, is an example of how energy can be 
redirected, was the example presented. And then followed up with that, 
as you had indicated as well, that writing one letter or developing a 
campaign of some sort to your lawmakers to inform them, as well as 
perhaps inform yourself as you or anyone are directed on an issue such 
as this, to find out what the laws are that allow for such exorbitant 
practices to continue, and to do a public education campaign as to why 
these types of things ought not to be visited, just as an example.

But otherwise, this as you are illustrating is an example of the unjust 
and corrupt practices that continue to take place in your world. Jesus 
was certainly not unaware of these kinds of practices, gave as many 
illustrations of what to do and what not to do to not encourage these 
types of practices inasmuch as possible. Even though he did moderate his 
statements to some degree, he knew that he needed to be on guard, 
because he was subject to attack at any second if he said something that 
was going to invite immediate retaliation.

What a fine example of what I am speaking of, if you remember both in 
the Biblical as well as the Urantia Book depiction of Jesus’ response 
during Passover at the atrocity of what the temple had become in terms 
of the charges and expenses that were charged the average person for 
their sacrificial rite and the animals that they were buying and the 
like, which cried to heaven. And his response was one that ultimately 
cost him his life, but brought us eternal life and the opportunity to be 
part of that eternal expression because of faith, because of an active 
faith. So it is not unlike his response and his activity in the world, 
he found a way to express it.

*Gerdean*: Understood. And it is not there all the time. It’s like when 
the spirit in you moves you, when you are brought up to full stature to 
address the subject with the empowerment from on high, that’s the moment 
to act. But as you said in your discussion earlier this evening that we 
should always guard up, that is to say have our senses on the ready for 
that moment when we can have that opportunity to speak for the spirit, 
speak for truth.

*Anatolia*: So true. There are countless opportunities for it, 
especially this day and age, when to speak for such things are more and 
more rare. So you ought to find plenty of opportunity to speak to that 
which needs to be spoken to, and otherwise I know you will follow your 
heart and your mind, and judge accordingly as to when the right time is 
to speak. I encourage you to once again place your efforts and 
activities within the heart and mind of Christ Michael, not that you do 
not do that already, but just as a subtle reminder of a truly wise and 
all seeing force of love that is available to us all as a daily and 
momentary, constant guide of perception and proper response to that 
which we see, just a subtle reminder to you or anyone else who is 
looking for a possible mode to be able to deal with these types of 
injustices as they are obvious.

*Gerdean*: Thank you, Anatolia, I will do that, and I appreciate the 
reminder, and your counsel.

*Anatolia*: As I appreciate the question. Anyone else? Everyone else is 
having no troubles or difficulties, that’s a good thing to hear. No 
wrinkles in your shirts, that’s a good thing. Or do we only have one 
person remaining?

*Dominic*: You mentioned something about flash anger and other types of 
anger. Can you explain that? Because I feel angry a lot when I am at 
home with my kids, and sometimes I don’t act with patience and 
understanding. I just react when I get frustrated because it worked.

*Anatolia*: First of all, I appreciate your asking the question, because 
it is a good example of what I was speaking of, however on a different 
level. What I was speaking of was for the most part being incensed by 
social injustice or wrong activity, abuse, those things that happen that 
bring up righteous indignation, which can be expressed as flash anger or 
an injustice.

*Dominic*: Isn’t that also the case when people see other organizations 
or institutions could get mad, other countries get mad at other 
countries’ behavior. When you see a child get mad at another child, or a 
parent get mad at a child, isn’t that the same thing?

*Anatolia*: Yes and no. Meaning what I was addressing was soul 
indignation, the type of indignation similar to, however it does not 
have to be as dramatic as that which Jesus experienced in the temple in 
turning over the tables of the money changers, etc. But that type of 
righteous indignation over the outright abuse and mistreatment and 
distortion of what original principles were involved.

So what I was making the distinction of, even in your example of getting 
angry over children’s misbehavior or, as they typically do, not listen 
to what they have been told to do, but go their merry way and will end 
up trying your patience beyond the breaking point. It’s a similar 
reaction, but not necessarily the same activity, because for one you are 
dealing with, as you had said yourself, frustration over not being able 
to maintain your own equilibrium, and being agitated or aggravated 
beyond the comfort zone for what has become irrational, chaotic and just 
plain agitation. So your response to that is irritation, emotional 
upset, whatever kind of description which is a natural reaction that you 
are reacting to try to maintain, or to bring back within your control as 
much as possible sanity, stability, equilibrium to be able to maintain 
function again, which is a little different than righteous indignation, 
if you see that difference.

*Dominic*: I do. The way I react to things out of my control, I get 
passionate, like Gerdean. But really the best thing to do is just wait 
for an opportunity to be aware of it. With your family it is more 
constant, because you are dealing with personalities rather than 
behavior, the social behavior of big things out of your control.

*Anatolia*: Right. I’m not doing a right or wrong, it’s just that it’s a 
different response to something that is an internal screaming, but from 
different causes or different sources. One is not better than the other, 
it is just that they are different functions. So your irritation with 
children is not to be condemned, of course. You are only encouraged to 
count to ten, or shorten the count if necessary, to try to reestablish 
equilibrium within yourself before you get to a breaking point where you 
would begin to lash out. Or if witnessing a child hitting another child, 
an adult needs to step in to stop that kind of behavior and to say it’s 
not OK to hit people, even though that is the natural reaction of humans 
at a very young age, because face it, for the most part everyone is self 
interest oriented. And the younger, the more obvious that becomes. It’s 
through socialization that that becomes to be taught as inappropriate 
behavior, but it is basic and primal to a large extent, which needs to 
be taught out of social behavior as much as possible. That’s essentially 
my lesson for sociology 96, not even 101.

*Dominic*: Thank you.

*Anatolia*: You’re welcome.

*Gerdean*: Let me just carry that a minute further if I may, Anatolia. I 
am trying to find, because I don’t want this sense of anger to follow me 
around like a dark cloud. And people ask me, “Oh Gerdean, blah, blah, 
blah, blah”. It’s not that. I am not angry. I am discussing anger and 
its various modalities because it is something I want to know more 
about, so that I can handle it wisely, since it is such a natural part 
of the human animal. It is said to be important because it lets you know 
things. But I’m not looking at anger now so much as when Jesus was, for 
example, upset with his kid brother Jude, who was all the time getting 
in trouble and getting everybody else in trouble as well. This is 
problematic behavior, and it in those terms might make a person angry, 
as we have been discussing. These other countries could be very angry at 
our behavior, but they haven’t formulated an idea of whether they should 
do anything about it or not. This is the kind of a feeling when he was 
addressing Jude’s behavior, I’m wondering. It wasn’t anger, the behavior 
makes you angry, but I am not angry at Jude. It’s like love the sinner 
and hate the sin. I’m not angry at an object. I’m angry at a principle. 
So what then do we bring to these situations? What am I looking for that 
I need? I don’t want to come to the situation angry. I want to come to 
it with an attitude of “What can we do about this? This is unacceptable. 
This is not working. This is not working at least for this element 
here”. What is that?

*Anatolia*: As I hear you describe that, it’s a plea, for the most part, 
for reestablishing order as it is supposed to be, as it was in the 
beginning, but through the human condition creates a state of constant 
disorder. So it strikes me as your plea for “Please reestablish order. 
Put it in the way that it should be so that we can finally live 
according to your law and your design to love one another”. So it is a 
screaming recognition of you, once again, that things are screamingly 
out of order.

*Gerdean*: I’m not buying this screaming stuff, because I’m spending a 
great deal of time being very well modulated. I’m not a screamer.

*Anatolia*: No. Screaming not literally in the sense of screaming 
audibly, but in terms of…

*Gerdean*: I’m broadcasting then. I’m being heard.

*Anatolia*: Right, but I’m talking about a reaction to that which is 
unacceptable. So it’s a cry, a statement of unacceptable condition. And 
please make our conditions acceptable and sane.

*Gerdean*: When Jesus went to Jude, do you think that is what he said to 
his kid brother? Because doing that would put the kid brother in control 
of Jesus’ emotional state. I don’t think that would work. I think he has 
to have more with him than a plea to reestablish order in the home. I 
think he’s got to have some kind of…

*Anatolia*: Authority, for one.

*Gerdean*: Authority for one, but I don’t want to leave it at authority, 
because authority is so readily abused.

*Anatolia*: Right. What I was speaking of was a description of what I 
perceive your response is to injustice. To use your example, then, it 
doesn’t exactly follow what I am describing as a plea in response to 
injustice. But in terms of a behavior, then with Jude as an example, and 
rather than Jesus getting angry and losing patience and being irritated, 
which would be the typical human response, after reasoned attempts to 
try to gain some cooperation. After a while, it just doesn’t work. 
Jesus’ attempt then would be to establish a sense of establishing what 
acceptable behavior is, and that if you cannot comport yourself 
accordingly, there will be certain privileges that will not be extended. 
In my understanding of what happened in that example, he had to step in 
as an authority figure, and to explain that his behavior was 
unacceptable and could no longer be tolerated without his losing some of 
his freedoms, to be able to get the point across that he had to curb his 
behavior.

So in the larger sense that presumably is why there is a United Nations, 
to be able to step in in a similar manner. However, in a world which is 
still full of imperfection, it does not always work.

*Gerdean*: Anatolia, as I see it, so far we have the woman pleading and 
the man being authoritative. Somewhere between the two there has got to 
be the community of feeling and value that we all can draw on that will 
be heard. That’s what I’m searching for in myself.

*Anatolia*: OK. I’m responding to particular examples. What I was going 
for to begin with was the description of plea for reestablishing order 
or justice. That is not necessarily a female or a male response. I was 
then responding to your example of Jesus with Jude. That was not 
necessarily a male versus a female description. What I was going for was 
in the plea for reestablishing order, or reordering chaos, was to once 
again suggest that anybody who feels bad over a particular situation 
call upon Christ Michael to help you adjust your spirit to be able to 
deal with that particular situation, whatever it may be at the moment, 
so that you can respond in truth to what you are experiencing, and for 
you to respond responsibly to what it is you are witnessing. That’s my 
best advice for how to deal with any situation, whatever it may be, in a 
true and honorable manner, responsible manner.

*Gerdean*: I think the Christians have a word for it. I can’t remember 
what it is, and I’ve heard Rob Cricket use that word, too. So there is 
an attitude, its like calling upon the spirit. The phrase will come to me.

*Anatolia*: Dominion, maybe?

*Gerdean*: No. I don’t know what it is.

*Anatolia*: I know what you mean. I can’t nail the word down. So I hope 
that helps.

*Gerdean*: It will be fun having God reveal it to me, I’m sure. And it 
has helped a great deal. I have so much enjoyed our conversation. Thank 
you Anatolia once again.

*Anatolia*: You’re welcome. Anyone else?

I thank you all for tuning in and going through another practical 
example of living the life that we have for the invitation and 
encouragement of life and light to eventually surround your world as we 
each work within that ourselves and collectively to bring such about.

If there is nothing else tonight, I do wish you well, and remind you to 
keep the kingdom of God in your constant sight because you are living 
within the kingdom of God as we speak, and it is the eternal now that we 
enjoy and have the opportunity to become as glorious as our future 
invites. So I pray for your well being, and until we meet again, may the 
Christ reign within your lives, now and always. Peace be with you.

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