[tmtranscripts] N. Idaho Team 4/17/05
rickgiles
rickgiles at icehouse.net
Mon May 2 21:02:49 PDT 2005
North Idaho Teaching Mission Group
Topics: Self Assuredness and Humility, Overall Objective is to
Portray Love in your Actions.
Teachers: Lantarnek, Elyon
April 17, 2005
* Lantarnek (Jonathan TR): Greetings to you, this is
Lantarnek. I have observed your conversation and am going to
input some considerations that will hopefully encourage as you
undertake spreading truth.
While you have spent many years engaged in the active
pursuit of truth, not merely waiting until it awakens you by
surprise but truly seeking it perhaps even demandingly, you have
undergone much growth and are possessive of an expanded
comprehension of universe values and of your participation in
the unfoldment of universe activities. You have now a treasure
chest full of realizations and learning experiences that are
available as gifts to others through teaching and through
service.
When an individual begins the sincere search for answers
regarding spiritual nature and the realities of universe, its
composition and function, one approaches the search with
humility an emptying of self importance and a willingness to
receive instruction, a desire to discover from without, to be
fed, to be directed. This emptying of self if given over one
hundred percent causes one to rapidly grow, for the blockage of
self-assurance is erased, thereby making the conditions for
absorption easy.
As one proceeds in attainment there begins to develop
assuredness due to experience. In the natural course of growth
the percentage of assurance increases while the percent of
humble openness diminishes. It is healthy for this to occur,
for the children of God do stand confident of their position in
the universe and the love of the Father toward them. The ideal
state is to reach the balance of equal percentage, 50-50,
wherein you are strong in your being, assured of your status,
all the while ever willing to receive new revelation, ever
willing to question your perception and understanding. When
self-assuredness surpasses humility, then begins the possibility
for error, even the distortions of evil, for the counterbalance
of adjustment by other beings and even the corrective
adjustments of life situations are prevented from having impact.
You are at the most optimum state of balance when you can say,
I know whereof I speak. Now please teach me.
These are my comments to you. I thank you for receiving
them.
Evelyn: When you said humility would diminish I wondered
where you were going with that. I cant imagine arriving on
Paradise and not feeling an enormous amount of humility. Jesus
was humble but also very assured, that 50-50 balance. Humility
isnt gone, its in balance. That was a good lesson.
* Lantarnek: Indeed, humility is a virtue to be safeguarded
in ones personality makeup. I do stress the balance of
assuredness and humility, for if one were wholly humble one
would continue to empty oneself of confidence to the extreme of
preventing that self-assuredness which is the possession of
truth and knowledge and understanding. The two do work in
harmony healthfully. The extreme of either hinders ones growth
and unfoldment.
Ginny: It reminds me of Thomas Aquinas quote in medio
stat virtus. In the middle is virtue. It doesnt mean
mediocrity but balance like of the good of humility and
assurance.
* Lantarnek: Thank you for your contribution. I would offer
the suggestion that when you are passionate in a particular
pursuit, the example here being self-confidence or humble, that
you ask yourself what is the opposite complement and work to
adjust both for that balance, to find that middle. When
pursuing one side, you will discover greater efficiency in
attainment by also pursuing the counterbalance.
Mark: A couple weeks ago we were discussing that often we
must decide whether we want to be right or kind, whether we want
to be correct or whether we want to be happy. Could you address
the distinctions drawn there?
* Lantarnek: You have spoken of a dynamic that occurs
between self and others, and it becomes a fourfold orientation,
more complex than our simpler twofold balance; for, in
correctness, in standing for truth, one is being the light,
possessing of spirit. When in interaction two options occur,
that of being accommodating and accepting of others or being
confrontative in the promotion of truth to the corrective impact
upon another. There develops the possibility of one of two
things, your loyal allegiance to truth may kindle the fire to
promote that truth regardless of acceptability to another, or
you may bury that truth that the superficial relations may
proceed smoothly, that you may preserve your possession of the
truth without confrontation or challenge. All the while the
other individual is either prevented from receiving your small
revelation to them, or they may be allowed to stand for their
own truth at their own stage of growth, which you have honored
by being non-confrontational.
The interactions become complex and highly specific to the
personalities involved such that there is no real formula with
which to approach this complex issue. The power of ego is
involved. If two are sincere and open to learning from each
other, then kindness may prevail regardless of agreement on the
perception of what is true and right. But this is not the case
frequently on Urantia. You are then in the more rigorous
undertaking of finding balance in a four-plex manner.
Mark: Thank you. I see another layer involved and that
more discretion is needed to grapple with the situation.
* Lantarnek: If I may add further comment, we spoke of the
simple balance within oneself of two extremes. With another
individual the same function exists of a balance within that
person. Picturing both individuals with these two points gives
four, and then you are in the social dynamic of a balance
between one of your extremes and the other individuals extreme
and each of the opposites. Therefore you are in a juggle of
extremes; seeking balance in oneself and seeking balance between
two occurs simultaneously. If the other individual is actively
pursuing the same you find harmony in your relationship.
* Elyon (Mark): I would greet you as well, and I would
congratulate you once again for your attending this forum and
for the lofty nature of your pursuits to grapple with these
multi-layered dimensions of your interpersonal human
experiences. These are indeed lofty challenges for you to
embrace, as they are constantly in flux and undergoing change,
as with each individual you come in contact with there is a
complete new set of dynamics you must discover to effectively
negotiate the relationship in question to its highest benefit.
There is but one overlying guideline to be used in your personal
interactions with all, and that is to maintain your approach and
your focus consistent with the desire to good to others, the
manifestation of love itself. If you come into any relationship
with this perspective firmly in your approach, you will be
granted insight into the direction of your interaction. When
guided by love your actions may vary greatly from individual to
individual but be consistent in their loving and genuine nature.
True it is that you may need to go to your tool boxes and
try a different angle and use a different method as you
encounter distinctly different individuals throughout your
journeys. But if you allow yourselves to be guided by the
handbook of love and continually remind yourselves that this
love is your overriding theme under which all of your other
tools may then become serviceable, your opportunity at hand then
becomes guided by this premise and becomes productive when used
in conjunction with any other method you may find yourselves
dealing with.
There are as many varied and appropriate approaches as
there are varied individuals that you will come in contact with.
But if you consistently remind yourself that the overall
objective is to portray love in your actions and with every tool
at your disposal, then will the end result reflect that overall
premise. The details of the interaction will tend to take care
of themselves.
It is good and proper to strive for awareness at the
different levels and the different balances required for more
proper attunement, but when in doubt you may always retreat to
the guideline of doing good to others. It is truly as simple as
that and yet appears so complex when the many facets of the
relationship are considered. You may do your best with the
tools at your disposal, but do all that you do with intent and
purpose to portray love and the values contained therein. This
is your ever present guideline and your ever productive
direction.
The more you grow as spiritual beings the more you identify
with the underlying tone of love that is present throughout all,
the more you can utilize this tone of love in whatever approach
you may deem necessary and right at the time. But if your
approach is one of love and your attempt is one of human nature,
your success in having been involved in whatever interaction or
relationship is guaranteed as long as the premise of doing good
to others has been conveyed. That one premise is both
extraordinarily simple and simultaneously extraordinarily
profound. You may always lean on that premise, and when that
has been conveyed your message, your position, has been
revealed.
Thank you all, my friends. I appreciate every opportunity
to engage with you. I particularly enjoy the opportunity to
watch each of you unfold as the petals of a flower and become
all that you will be. It is a glorious sight, and I consider
myself extremely fortunate to enjoy this liaison position with
you wherein I can be as close to you as I am and observe these
changes in you as they happen, as your petals unfold. As the
Father would have it be, then so be it.
Jonathan: I enjoyed your lesson on doing good to others.
Its another aspect of finding balance in relationships and
within oneself.
* Elyon: That simple question if asked of your motivation,
would you desire to be treated in this way? will provide for you
great understanding of anothers position and of your own
motivations. I encourage you to avail yourself of that simple
question when you are engaged with others, and it will resound
within you to find your center and to bring you back to balance
that you seek. It is there for the simple asking. Thank you.
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