[tmtranscripts] Arcadia, November 12, 2007
Larry Whelan
lwhelan at sbcglobal.net
Sat Nov 24 12:53:51 PST 2007
Arcadia, California,
U.S.A.
PR
Monday, November 12, 2006, 8:00 pm
Teachers: JarEl
TR: George Benavides
Topics: Commendation for recognizing that we are all eternal beings.
The Teachers are here to help us expand our minds and
grow and connect
with God and each other as well as celestials.
We have plenty to work with here and work to do.
We are more powerful that we know, or think.
To bring Urantia into Light and Life will take the
work of all of us.
Questions: What do you think of the idea of nonmaterial beings being given the
opportunity to be material, for their own experience?
Where do our emotions come from or originate?
Can you tell me more about how the pituitary gland
helps us to connect
spiritually and does it involve other parts of our body as well?
Prayer: Donna: Dear Father, thank you for our gathering here
tonight. Thank you for our conversation, thank you for the Teacher,
JarEl, who you are sending to us. Please help us to hear what words
of wisdom you might have for us. Please guide us all on our path
Father. We wish to assist in these early stages of Light and Life
which are coming, hopefully, soon. We wish to assist in whichever
way we can. Thank you Michael. Amen.
JarEl: TR, George. Good evening. It is I, your teacher JarEl. It
is good to be back once again.
I am pleased to see that you are all continuing your lives in the
most positive way possible. Even though minor doubts may creep up
from time to time, you do all along remain with the idea that you are
eternal beings and that you will continue on for all eternity. Now
for you this is a concept that has not yet come to pass. It is an
idea that you do believe in, however, it is not self-evident and it
takes much faith on your part to make this into a reality in your
mind. But this is something that you feel that is right. This is
something that you sense in your heart that is true and good and,
therefore, it is easier for you to come to believe in such an
idea. And none of us are here to try to force any idea on you. That
is not our purpose, nor is it our mission.
We are here to help you expand your own minds. We are here to help
you grow and to allow God into your hearts and to help you see the
connection that you have with one another, with all human beings on
this planet, with all mortals in this universe and with all celestial
beings who you will one day meet. The universe is grand and it is
complex and there are many things that you will one day see and
experience and they await you. But it is not in our nature to rush
you. You have plenty to work with here. You have many experiences
to discover. You have a whole life to live.
The idea of waiting for something that will one day become is, in a
way, absurd. For everything that you've ever wanted is here and now;
everything that you need is in your presence. And this imaginary day
when all your wishes will come true is a day that is not worth
waiting for. For you waste time and energy looking forward to a
miraculous day when all your life will change. You can make the
change. You can make everything come true here and now in this very
moment. You have that power. You have that ability to make your
life's dream into a reality instead of just waiting for it to happen,
you can actively go out and search for it and make it happen.
In the same fashion you can go out and search for God and find
Him. If you always long for the questions to be answered, then they
will be answered. If you always long for greater happiness, then you
will have greater happiness. And God will give you the opportunity
to accomplish this and all the energy to sustain you through all
those trials. You have more power than you imagine you have. You
have greater strength within yourself and you do not even know
it. While you are on this world you may think that you are expected
to live a certain life and you can very well follow this pattern of
living; you can go along with everyone else and not make a big fuss
about your conditions. But you also do have the opportunity to live
an extraordinary life, a life full of discovery and adventure and
knowledge. You have the opportunity to change the world around you
and to bring this world closer to a greater age.
Urantia will not one day miraculously be brought into Light and
Life. It is something that you all will have to work towards. It is
something that must be searched. So it is important that you
proactively take your place in this world and decide whether or not
you want to change it. It is up to you to be extraordinary. It is
only a matter of intention.
Are there any questions here tonight?
Dennis: I was wondering what you thought of this particular
idea: If you had those of nonmaterial origin, if they were given the
opportunity to incarnate, or to be materialized, let's say an infant,
not born, but materialized as an infant. If they grew up as a
material being and spent a lifetime (with their memories suppressed),
what do you think of that type of a program being offered to certain
classes of nonmaterial beings as far as an opportunity for a unique experience?
JarEl: TR, George. Are you proposing a new program or is this
purely theoretical?
Dennis: I was just curious what you thought of the concept? Based
on the idea that to experience something, the wisdom and the
compassion and all the various things that come from experiencing a
thing are much greater than just observation.
JarEl: TR, George. To what purpose should this be accomplished?
Dennis: This would be for the benefit of beings that would
experience this. It seems to me that there is so much focus on us as
material beings evolving into a spiritual state that I wondered what
it would be like for those who have never experienced that to
actually have that opportunity to go through that? It would most
likely provide a very valuable experience for them.
JarEl: TR, George. They certainly do have that experience through
liaison. In other words, through the Michael Sons who bestow
themselves on the planet as mortals. Through these experiences the
nonmaterial beings are able to fully understand and comprehend the
life in the flesh. It is not entirely necessary for them to fully
immerse themselves in such an experience, for it is not in their
best interest. We all are destined to some grander place; we are
constantly evolving and growing. Those that come from mortal lives
have a particular experience, they build them. Just as those that
were created go through entirely different experiences. It is not
meant for every single one of us to fill each and everyone's
shoes. Just as you will never have that experience of being
created perfectly, in that very instance, you are working your way
toward perfection. And so, perhaps, a perfected being is working
their way down to mortality.
Dennis: I was thinking more along the lines of, not necessarily
forms of deity, but, created beings, whether they be Seraphim or
whatever else they might be.
JarEl: TR, George. There is a purpose for all the various orders of
angelic hosts. However, it is not their purpose to become
mortal. Just as it is not your purpose to become Seraphim. We all
have our paths my friend. We all gladly take up this road.
Dennis: I wasn't suggesting they take up the career path of an
ascended mortal, but simply 'trying on the shoe' so to speak.
JarEl: TR, George. They are very close and intimate with your
kind. Believe me they do experience all the sorrows and all the
heartache and all the joy you have. It is not required that they be
flesh and blood. Perhaps this is a question best answered at
somefuture date for you.
Dennis: I was just curious what you thought of it. You have
answered my question
Now I have another question. It seems that our emotions within us
are electro-chemically generated. What about in the Morontial and
spiritual realms? Are emotions derived from the mind or are they
derived from the personality? Where is their place of origin? What
generates emotions within the different orders of existence?
JarEl: TR, George. I would first like to take you back and make a
correction. The chemical and electrical responses are secondary to
the emotions. The thought and the idea are first derived in the mind
and the imbalance that exists in your bodies triggers certain
emotions. But the trigger itself, the idea, derives from the
mind. So the emotions of love and hate that you experience on your
planet originated in the mind itself and sometimes in the level of
evolution in the personality. And this is carried on through until
the Morontia realm, where these emotions continue to exist, and they
have nothing to do with chemicals.
The chemicals are secondary reactions and they sometimes alter the
pure emotion. As you continue on through the Morontia worlds, you
will learn to balance yourself and moderate your emotions and to
desire for the greater emotions in your minds. In other words, you
will gravitate more towards love and service rather than hate and
anger. Those sorts of emotions, in latter times, will be repulsive
to you. And you will learn how to be a better person within
yourself. And each time you become up-stepped you will have greater
capacity to enjoy all the feelings that you have. You will have a wider
range of emotions and feelings than you ever knew were possible. And
as you become purer spirit you will grow in those higher emotions,
higher ways of thought. And, all of this, with no body to speak of,
for you will be pure spirit. Hopefully that answers your question.
Dennis: Yes, thank you.
Michael: Hello JarEl. If I might elaborate on the discussion
between material and spiritual, and sort of explore it
further. There was something in the Urantia Book that I read at one
point that very much interested me. It has to do with how the
material relates to the spiritual.
I know from what I've learned that in the universes of time and
evolution, energy and matter is dominant, except when mind acts upon
it, while spirit is trying to gain mastery through the mind. I've
always loved this concept, this interplay of material and spiritual
trying to meet; this point of interception.
The Urantia Book makes reference, talking about the mortals, not just
about brains, but about the pituitary gland system and the chemicals
there. You were explaining how an emotion and a thought will trigger
an effect and I was just wondering if this is not only something that
resonates through the material brain, but is also something that
resonates through the rest of the organs in the body? Is this
centering that we are attempting to attain something even just beyond
mental and beyond the brain and that sort of interplay of chemistry
but also physically in terms of health and whatnot?
JarEl: TR, George. And your specific question was?
Michael: How do the other parts of the body, mainly my curiosity was
in the pituitary gland's chemistry, that they mentioned specifically
as pertaining to spirit, go beyond just the brain? How that, with
the other parts of the body, relates to this spiritual leading that
we are trying to understand and stabilize with?
JarEl: TR, George. The rest of your body organs are there to
function; to keep you alive, to keep you working. That particular
gland of which you speak (pituitary), is there to allow you to
connect to higher thoughts, to higher meanings.
However, you must take note that all these are just tools, they are
just what you have to work with at this particular moment. You will
be given higher tools as you physically progress. Your mind and your
emotions do have effects on your entire body. You can become sick
simply by thinking it. And you can also achieve health with positive
thoughts. It is an amazing tool because it connects you to the True
Source and Center. This is something that your scientists will one
day discover. They are just beginning to scratch the surface.
Always keep in mind that this body that you have is something that is
perishable. The one thing that is in you, your spirit, your
personality, will continue without it, will move forward. And you
will find a new body in which to reside, but that body will never
truly be representative of who you are, of who you truly are. You
will find new facades at every stage of the way. And then you will
discover that the person that you are is deeper and stronger and more
powerful than the delicate shrouds that cover. And this idea will
connect you to the universe. This idea will bring you solace and
will lead you towards the center of God. Hopefully I answered your
question Michael?
Michael: Yes, thank you very much.
JarEl: TR, George. You are welcome.
Michael: I find sometimes, while thinking about the immensity of it
all, it almost gives me vertigo to think about how much there is to
experience, how much is going on, that even in all of our ascension
we will still have yet to experience. It is quite amazing and at the
same time very sort of, I guess, thrilling would be the word to describe.
JarEl: TR, George. It is understandable. Just take everyday as it
comes my friend and you will be all right. There is much for you to
expect and you would have this vertigo if you were to see even a
hundred years into your future. It would simply amaze you to see
what you will be up to. But do not concern yourself with this future
day, for it is not what you are doing now. You will see and your
future self will see as well, that what you did here and now is the
most important thing for you to do at this moment.
And with that I will leave you all. Goodnight.
All: Goodnight JarEl.
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