2019-7-29, NET
#69, Monjoronson; Machiventa
New Era Transition #69 – Avonal Arrival; Continuum of
Divinity; Church; Web Site Project – July 29, 2019
Monjoronson,
Avonal Son and Magisterial Son; Machiventa Melchizedek, Planetary Manager and
Planetary Prince
Topics:
When
will Monjoronson arrive?
Hope,
faith, belief, trust and knowing
The
“when factor” is a matter of development and timing
Your
world must be receptive to the programs of the Avonal Son
Is
the “Caligula Moment” irreversible?
Political
leadership making blind decisions
Why
is our generation the one being called to action?
The
continuum of Divinity
The
Church’s old message versus the new message
You
are now the prime actors in this world
Being
led astray by religious fanatics
The
“church” is an invention of humankind
These
documents are not Jesus or God heretical
The
church belongs in you
Personalities
run to types and mix in families
The
most primitive challenge to overcome is those of color
Our
democracy has not come to an end
There
are plans for our democracy
The loss of vertebrate species on our planet
The 'spiritual hub' website project
This site is for the preservation of revelations that
come from Christ Michael
Practices
and attitudes for better Adjuster alignment and communication
When
does the turnaround for humanity begin?
Is a military conflict likely to be the planet’s undoing?
The
next human species, “Homo spiritus”
The
nature of the Supreme Being
The mechanisms of human conservatism
Balancing revealing truths and preservation of older
beliefs
TR: Daniel Raphael, PhD
Team members present: Roxanne Andrews, Liz Cratty, Jeff Cutler, Stéphane Labonteé and Sherille Raphael
Invocation: Daniel
July 29, 2019
When will Monjoronson
arrive?
MONJORONSON: Welcome to this new day. I want to begin first by asking Liz if I may use her situation two weeks ago as a lesson point. (Liz: Of course!) Thank you. Many of you in the audience have asked many times when will Monjoronson arrive and I have been asked personally by a number of people when I would arrive and become incarnate to “come to dinner,” so to speak, or literally to come to dinner. (Liz: Please!) (Laughter.) No, I am on the same page as Machiventa on all of these sessions as we share in our mind link of the total content of what we have experienced as far as the mortal realm is concerned on Urantia.
Hope, faith, belief, trust
and knowing
I am thoroughly aware that our teammate has asked sincerely and deeply and reverently when I would arrive. This repeated heartfelt request comes from as we sense the deeper levels of Liz’ being, her personality and her emotional state, a lack of confidence in herself, a lack of confidence in our arrival. If you plug those statements into the continuum of “hope, faith, belief, trust and knowing,” you will find that this statement of not knowing or not trusting rests below trust; it exists somewhere between belief and faith. The deep faith belief is that I am coming; you may know that I am coming because I have said so to you personally, but much like the blind person at the fountain in Jerusalem, that blind person did not know that Jesus would heal him until he actually did. This blind man had heard that Jesus heals; he believed that Jesus heals people and he trusted that Jesus could heal because he had heard the stories firsthand from other individuals who had been healed. But he truly did not know of this healing of Jesus until Jesus actually touched him and gave him some instructions and his sight was healed; this is true knowing. He could say with a true knowing, “I have been healed; I am healed; Jesus healed me. I “know” that Jesus healed me.
And so, when you have deep-felt, heartfelt devout questioning about the status of your being, and this relationship to us, please “trust.” Trust that what we say is true; trust that when we do arrive we will surely be there present for you to touch us hand-in-hand, and even give us a hug if you wish. Until then, you must trust. Once you have had this hug or have shaken the hand or have looked in my eyes and have felt the presence of the magnitude of my presence, then you will “KNOW” that this is real, that I have arrived, that I am incarnate and that I walk the streets and the paths and in your homes with you when I am there. Until then, please do not distrust yourself in knowing; trust yourself to be confident enough to have faith and belief and trust that I am so and I will be such in your company eventually.
The “when factor” is a
matter of development and timing
The “when factor” is a matter of development, a matter of timing. Some of you know how desperately primitive your planet is. Some of you truly have been exposed to some of the most depraved situations of moral depravity on your world and these need to be rectified. There must become a time on your planet when the planet is ready as a whole to receive my presence, and eventually the presence of Jesus as Christ Michael. It would be unproductive for me to arrive when the vast majority of your world would be in disbelief, denial and even react violently. You who aspire to the morontial life are certainly ready to receive me. You must trust that I will fulfill my duties to be incarnate on Urantia. This may be after your lifetime, and it may even be after your grandchildren’s lifetime.
Your world must be
receptive to the programs of the Avonal Son
Your world must be receptive to the programs that I will initiate as an incarnate Avonal Son. Now, my programs include the transformation of your social institutions of the family, education, medical healthcare, democracy and so on. This is important to embed and invest and enculturate and socialize your world population, your civilization with these ideas. Only then will you be able to receive the higher frequencies of my presence in your being. It will be such at the time when I arrive, even those who are still primitive will not see me. I will be present to those who have the ability and capability of “seeing” me in the flesh, but those who do not, will not be able to see me. They will walk past me as though I did not exist, and so it is in their mind.
The discord, the cognitive dissonance you feel, the cognitive thinking problem that you experience with hearing my voice and knowing I exist, and that I will one day be with you is much for you to overcome. It will require a great deal of confidence on your part that what you are hearing is true, and that we do not deceive you. There are no sophistries here, in fact we are trying to be very brutally honest—what you would call radically honest and radically transparent—we are radically transparent to the extent that what you can believe we will share with you. If you are unaccepting of that, or that we know you will reject it in your mind without even saying a word, then we will not reveal that to you. We are waiting for a receptive audience in the majority of the population of your planet. I wish you well and now I give way to your Planetary Manager, Machiventa Melchizedek.
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Daniel: Does anyone have any questions for Monjoronson?
MONJORONSON: If there are any questions, I would be glad to entertain them.
Is the “Caligula Moment”
irreversible?
Jeff: In our last meeting your referred to a “Caligula Moment” and I presumed you were referring to the leadership in the United States. My first question is this irreversible?
MONJORONSON: As Machiventa has told you many times, it is reversible, but we need your assistance and that is why these efforts of the Correcting Time are co-creative. Further, to restate that “Caligula” was a despotic, depraved, immoral Caesar in the time of the Roman Empire.
Political leadership
making blind decisions
Jeff: My second question revolves around you; you referred to our political leadership at the moment as people who are making blind decisions, crossing their fingers behind their back and “hoping” that things will work. In the field that I spent my career, “hope” is not in their investment strategy and I presume that to remove hope from the strategy of planetary management, at least from our end of it, that it requires a great deal of change from the status quo. My question is this: You said that “we however have a different agenda for your nation, your culture and for your democratic nations, and that is for you to grow, to survive.” Is there an action plan to bring 7 core values to the leadership training of politicians of this world, or is that going to be up to us?
MONJORONSON: Let me take on a human emotion. I am a little bit exasperated with your statement and your question, because this has been revealed to you many, many, many times in the past: We are deeply invested in the 7 core values and the ethics and morality that emanate from those values, and yes, we do have a plan; we are not holding our fingers behind our back and we are proceeding knowledgeably about the vicissitudes of your planet and the vagaries of its leadership.
Why is our generation the
one being called to action?
Stéphane: Thank you for your message today. I want to ask the question, the messages we are receiving in the last few years is unprecedented; the call for action is unprecedented in the history of this world. What makes this era so special and what makes this era so it is the “one,” this generation is the “one” which is being called to receive these and this call to action on this message?
MONJORONSON: Certainly and this too is a reiteration of what we have said before. This generation now, this 50 year period that has begun years ago and which will continue is a crux; it is the knee upon which the limb, or the stick, or the broom or the pencil is broken. Before this time, these changes that we are initiating could not be productive. That is the first part. The second half is that if this era of the breaking point continues then your world will be in desperate straits; the world would experience many calamities that are manmade. You see the calamities around you as weather-made, as tectonic, as those things which are normal to a planet. Your overpopulation is in fact a consequence of your biologic functioning, which has not been brought into balance by the reasoning power of your race. I do not need to go into the details of the crushing cataclysms that would be manmade to destroy your civilization as it exists now.
This point now is that this is time to inject these corrective features which can be gladly received by individuals who are thoughtful, knowing and intelligent and culturally aware to act upon. Any later than this, then those people would be missing in the reconstruction of your world decades and centuries later. This is a time in which we can infuse your culture and the intellect of individuals in your social institutions with the knowledges that are necessary for you to co-creatively, with us, transform your world into one that is learning to grow through the difficulties of your own humanity, your technologies, overpopulation, and the problems that are collectively known as global warming, which includes the melting of ice sheets, glaciers and so on, which will raise the sea level significantly.
This time is a multi-millennial event that began from the time that Moses brought his people out of Egypt, and later out of Babylon that they eventually became the forerunners of what you have today. Their “chosen people” status has long expired; it is now that you, the individuals who are in contact with us—you are not chosen for you have chosen yourself—you have elected to be a part of these plans and so this is what we wish for the rest of the planetary population. This time is a time in which the new ideas of the values and redesign of your social institutions must be brought forward to enact and initiate successfully the transformation of your planet, and later to reform it during the reconstruction time.
These ideas are important to inseminate worldwide with all the intellectual and academic and cultural leaders around the world. They will infuse others who will remain even after they might be part of the decimation. These ideas of the recovery plan are important to have presented now. Failure to present these now would lead to the destruction of your civilization without a plan of recovery other than through the miserable concepts of those who would be left to recover. They would be on a survival basis on a planet that would be much less populated, with only the remnants of your technologies and social institutions. You would truly be living, then, in a world that would be in a dystopic environment where there would be no hope other than to gather the remnants of your technologies to eke out a living as best you can. We do not wish for that, as it would be a dismal failure of an experimental planet status in the extreme. You would be one of those one in a trillion planets that had destroyed itself through your own human means without celestial intervention, and this still may occur if those in leadership are not brought to a conscious level of awareness of their misdeeds, of their wrong decisions and their selfishness. Do you understand now, sir?
Stéphane: I do, and one of the points you brought forward is that in the past 3,000 years, we relied on a single tremendous leader, such as Moses to carry a mission through one generation, whereas now we no longer have this chosen personality, but the mission relies on a broader acceptance with everyone playing their part.
MONJORONSON: Exactly! Thank you.
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The continuum of Divinity
MACHIVENTA: Good morning, this is Machiventa Melchizedek and thank you for your presence here and we thank Monjoronson for his instructions today. It is important that you see the connection between myself and him and Christ Michael, that this is a continuum of Divinity, or that which you would call Holy, though that is an archaic word in many ways. The Divine is an active ingredient which also involves the Infinite Spirit and the Daughter Spirits, Mother Spirits throughout the Local Universes. We are active, we are one, we are whole and we are here to assist you in recovering with us the best aspects of your planet and your civilization and the social institutions that you have devised, developed and have existed with you.
This is Machiventa; I am open for questions if you have any.
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The Church’s old message
versus the new message
Stéphane: Thank you, Machiventa. I was just in a family gathering this weekend and was amazed that people expressed themselves as non-believers. Also we discussed how the Church has gotten to the point where it is non-approachable with all of its rituals and scandals that have been made visible over the last few years. I am of the opinion that this is a necessary step that there needs to be a realization of what the Church’s message had been over the millenniums in order to comprehend the new message coming forward. Do you share this opinion?
MACHIVENTA: Yes. It is important that the Church which includes all God believing churches, religions and belief systems, accept a new mission and that is to assist individuals to be receptive to each other, to live as brothers and sisters as parents and children. It is important that the family concept not be transferred to the church. This was a grave error for those early founders of the Christian faith in the early centuries after Christ. The Fatherhood only belongs to the Father, the Creator, and to Its Creator Sons and Daughters. This Fatherhood is unique and is the Fatherhood of all humanity. It is so removed from the fatherhood of the church that it is inconsistent and quite unethical to call oneself “Father” of the Church.
We would not use the primitive religious word “blasphemous” [to describe this fatherhood] but it is something that is incongruent with the human status of a church leader within a congregation, whether it is a temple, a synagogue or a church, or something else. It is important that you see yourselves as siblings, that you are in this all together, and in that regard you are aunts and uncles of your siblings’ children, and that you want the best for these children as you do for your own children, that when you come to this new belief system of the oneness of your generation and other generations without the mother and father figure and the deification of those individuals, then you will have a much better understanding of the work that we are doing on the planet now, as Melchizedeks, as Celestial Teachers, Midwayers, and so on. And yes, Midwayers are the caretakers of this planet; they are the ones who make those serendipitous, synchronicities possible for you to move forward quickly. It is the bridge of your belief that something is going on besides just business, that there is someone involved in this, whether you call it Midwayers, your call it Providence or beatific serendipity.
You are now the prime
actors in this world
It is important that you learn that you are the prime actors now in this world, that you are responsible for your lives and for the care of others. We feel the same way and that is why this Correcting program has been initiated centuries ago, of which you only became aware of decades ago. We care for you as we care for all children, that you are the children of Christ Michael and Nebadonia. You are the children of the Life Carriers and you are the children of those planets that are now in the state of Light and Life for they see your planet very clearly and the desperate situation you have gotten yourself into and the admirable programs that are here available for you, and with us to correct this situation. With you it becomes not only possible, but probable and eventual and then a certainty, and then you—meaning future generations—will know firsthand what we have done and what you have done.
Being led astray by
religious fanatics
Stéphane: Thank you. But when trying to have a discussion about this, those that spent their childhood in the spirit of the church have many reasons to point to, to not align themselves with the church anymore, and when confronted with new ideas, then they always point to the Jones Town scenarios where fanatics lead their people astray. What are the points that we can use in these kinds of scenarios to have a more fruitful discussion?
The “church” is an
invention of humankind
MACHIVENTA: Certainly and thank you for your question. It is one we can address very directly. First of all, the “church” is an invention of humankind. It is not a God creation. It is not a place in which you are transformed. It is not a place in which you can go to be transformed by the church leader or anyone else in the church. Those who have led the innocents astray, such as the Jim Jones phenomena, did so out of their own thinking. What they have created is an artificial church out of what they thought was best for others. You have seen centuries, millennia, 30,000 years of organized social existence of humanity in the forms of tribes, councils, governments and so on, which have failed. They have all failed similar as the churches are failing simply because they are artificial constructs of human thinking.
These documents are not
Jesus or God heretical
When you speak to others, you must make this fact very clear that the church is not God. God is not the church. Church is a separate social phenomena, and artificial construct of human thinking and only pretends to represent God, the presence of God of all. Churches are simply a conduit of instruction, and environment of like-thinking individuals who can appreciate like-thinking, knowing that the presence of God exists in each one of them, not the church. Yes, if you show this document to some church believers, they would say that this is heretical — it is church heretical, but it is not Jesus heretical. It is not God heretical. Where there is consistency in Jesus and in God, which we are striving to infuse you with through these instructions, and particularly through your meditation, for those times of day when you step apart and come into oneness with the God presence within you. That is the church that we believe in. That is the church that God has created for you.
The church belongs in you
The church belongs in you because you have created the church in your relationship with God within you. This is the true place in presence of the God-union with you. This is where you can learn. This is where you can commune with us, and yes, in those ecstatic moments of those God moments, yes you are “one” with that feeling of immense gratitude knowing that you have been touched by the presence of God. This is a true mystical experience, knowing both through your personal experience of the presence of God in your life and in your mind, in the immediate moment and seconds that you are breathing, in that ecstatic moment. This is the ultimate church. This is as close as you will get to a morontial temple in your world at this time, is through your meditation, through your instruction and opening yourself totally to the instructions of your Thought Adjuster and those around you throughout the day. There are many who are in your presence who are instructing you along the way when you open yourself to that presence, whether you are swinging a hammer and turn around to gather another strip of staples or nails to put in your nail gun, or whether you take a break and have lunch, or whether you go to the outdoor urinal, there is a quiet moment where you can be in oneness in that God moment with us, with the God presence within you, your Thought Adjuster. And, this is the place where we are with you.
Stéphane: Thank you; that was very nicely put.
Personalities run to types
and mix in families
Liz: The Urantia Book says that personalities run to types, and it has been my observation that there is an odd mix of personalities in families, there seems to be one of every kind in every family. My theory is that this forces us to interact and learn to interact with all different types of personalities. My conclusion is that families are divinely assembled. Is this true?
MACHIVENTA: I would remove the word divinely as it is an “intention” for families to present you thinking individuals with a variety of personalities as preparation for the time when you enter into the larger aspects of society. Can you imagine how it would be so monotonous to be born in a family where everyone had the same personality, and then you would go outside of the family to the society and you had many other people who were just like you? That would be a society of automatons and that is anathema for a spiritually evolving individual.
The intention of families is purposely to present a mix of personalities, a challenge. It is upon your relationships that you grow socially, emotionally, culturally and so on. It is upon the mix of personalities that you search within yourself for that own mix of presences within you to seek unity and to overcome the things that you despise in others, that you then find within yourself. It is very true that when someone comes into your life and you immediately despise them for some reason it is because of something inside yourself that remains unresolved. And so, your families are those mix of individuals who can present to you the situations to grow in, and hopefully with good parenting and childrearing, those parents will assist you to grow through those, so that when you do enter society and the larger aspects of society that you will be whole enough within yourself to understand how to constructively work with those who are different.
The most primitive
challenge to overcome is those of color
The most primitive regard in this concern is those of different color; this is the most primitive position of overcoming inherent challenges within yourself. If you cannot accept another person for the color that they are, how can you ever accept that which is within you which is so reprehensible to your own being were you to know what those factors were. You have certainly hit on a very important aspect of your parenting, of your biology, of your social culture and your existence in a democratic nation. You have the freedom to experience much aggravation, and so it is that you have been placed here for a reason and the family that you have come into for a reason, and your placement there was most definitely intentional on your part before you came here with your Thought Adjuster.
Liz: Thank you for that answer and that leads me to—well maybe I’d better hold that question since it is not fully developed yet. I’ll hold it for next time.
MACHIVENTA: I appreciate your thoughtfulness to wait for the completion of your thoughts.
Roxie: Any other questions from the group? If not, I have received several pages of questions from readers, too many to ask here, so I will cherry pick a few in the time allotted.
Our democracy has not come
to an end
1) Monjoronson mentioned that the four primary values have brought our democracy to a final conclusion. Considering we now have a “Caligula type leader” who uses none of the 4 primary values, but is totally into control, power and domination, is that why our government is now due to collapse? That his suggestions for the future are for afterwards when we start to recover?
MACHIVENTA: I will answer on behalf of Monjoronson. In the first instance, your democracy has not come to an end; it has simply reached the zenith of its evolution. The principle precepts and design of the democracy that was evident in the Constitution that came out of the 1789-1791 Congress was a document, a design that has completed its evolution. There are no further developments within that format, within that design that can be developed further. The problem that you are seeing is that this design has become maximized; it is now crystallized, meaning there are individuals who hold this design so hallowed that they are incapable of thinking that it can be improved upon.
What has happened then, as most instances occur in whether it is in a monarchy or any other type of leadership situation which we are seeing in Russia as well, is that you begin to end up with an oligarchy, and the individual who has the most persuasion and most political power, control and money is the one who rises to the top. In the case of what has occurred in the past election of the United States President is that you have a large percentage of your population who chose this individual to lead the nation. That leader is a reflection of the thinking of those voters. This may sound critical, but it is not; it is simply an observation that we have of what has occurred. You are now in the political baroque era of democracy, which now can only devolve, and you are beginning to see the rapid devolution of your democracy through the presidential orders that are coming through. This is a natural development that will be rectified by further revolution or by a martial law and such situations as that. The thoughts of survivalists of those individuals who think of the demise of democracy are not altogether wrong; they are just going on evidence that they see within themselves and outside themselves to support their thinking.
There are plans for our
democracy
In the second instance we have plans for your democracy. They are now beginning to be developed. I will use a metaphor and that is this: We do not want to pull the chestnuts out of the fire before they are done, by revealing to you that you will be presented with a document soon that we have been co-creatively writing with This One, which speaks about stage one democracies, stage two democracies and stage three democracies. In brief, you in the United States and some other democracies are now living in what we have termed a feral state of democracy of the second stage. Freedom and liberty have been developed to such an extent that they are no longer connected to an individual or societal responsibility to maintain the working order of your society or the democracy. I will say no further about that as this document is not complete, but should be presentable sometime next week. [Note: Between Aug. 5 – Aug.11 of 2019.] Thank you for your question.
2) How do we balance protecting and preserving Western Civilization and Culture from dilution by the flood of culture from the Third World with the Three Secondary Values?
MACHIVENTA: This is a
speculative question of how we do that.
What you really want to know is how do you personally do that with your
neighbors who may come from a Third World country.
The
loss of vertebrate species on our planet
3)
Our stewardship of
our Urantia involves our care of other species (wildlife) as well as
ourselves. Recent reports show that humankind has been the major factor
in the loss on average of about 60% of our planet’s vertebrate species
populations since 1970. What can we do to slow down or stop this terrible
trend?
MACHIVENTA: We are not
concerned with individuals such as yourself.
What your question really deals with is how to convince other people
other than yourself that there is a necessity to prevent the destruction of the
species. This is a completely different
question. You, as a society, as a nation
of people and as organizations are actually doing a very good job of doing this. It is simply that there are individuals
throughout the world who would rather sell an orangutan baby or adult orangutan
rather than to preserve that species in the forests for other generations. It is a matter of necessity; you who have
plenty and you have enough and are not egregious and who are not destroyers of
other species, we are not concerned about.
It is a
matter of education; it is a matter of information; it is a matter of designing
programs to assist those who are impoverished to stop selling orangutans and
other species so that they have a means of income that is legitimate. It is a matter of consciousness; there is not
the consciousness of preservation on your planet. The Western Civilization that has developed
industry and so on is exploitive. This
consciousness and mindset is pervasive throughout the world; it is an extension
of the primitive nature of survival-ship and existence to extend the existence
into the next day, the next week and so on.
It is most unfortunate that your planet is going through this already at
this time, as it is a very distinctive period of time.
You
could also, if you want to speculate or use a speculative situation also infer
that eventually humans will sell each other for some use that they design will
give them greater income. This has
already begun to take place with the harvesting of organs for people who are
near death, those who have died, and those who are prey to others that have
control of the situation even the lives of others. This is brutally primitive, immoral and so
on, but this is an extension of the development of societies and democracies
that have gone awry. You are not at that
situation yet, but you are seeing the beginning of this in the present
generation and present century and this decade.
The
'spiritual hub' website project
4) In regards to how things are occurring related to the 'spiritual hub' website project (lightandlife.com), what advice and concerns can you share with us to lessen pitfalls and enhance efficacy?
MACHIVENTA: Certainly, there is one primary point: Stop trying to be in control, power, influence and authority of the sites that you develop! Think in terms of one idea, one idea that is shared with others. If the idea is to maintain control of all the information of all the transcripts under your own personal control, that will lead to a travesty and disorganization eventually of these materials. If you have an instance of a thought of self-appreciation where you think you are the only most appropriate individual to develop a site to do these things, then this too will end in tragedy. Think in terms of what the audience wants, rather than what you want.
You as site engineers and site originators and creators must get yourself out of the way to serve Christ Michael and the Correcting Time and to your audience, which eventually will be burgeoning, which will be growing. If you think in those terms, then you will do much better than how you are doing now. It is the egoism of self-belief and self-thought that you know best. Again, the maladaptation of Cartesian Logic is this: “I think therefore I am right.” This is a statement and a quote which gets humans in so much trouble. This is an answer to the difficulty of churches across the world at this time. The artificial constructs of individual’s thoughts in these human bound creations are the fountainhead of much difficulty later on.
Think in terms of a web site that will serve individuals for a millennium, which is not a whole lot of time in our scheme of things. Think in terms of how it can be adapted later; how the basic information can be preserved; how it can be adapted or would become adaptable for new software, new web site designs and so on. Think in terms of the larger whole of it all; think of it as being adaptable for future developments.
This
site is for the preservation of revelations that come from Christ Michael
5) Do you have an opinion on whether the current site should try to include spiritual thinking in areas outside of the Urantia Book, The Teaching Mission and the Magisterial Mission?
MACHIVENTA: We have given you very clear instructions. This is for the preservation of the revelations that come from the work of Christ Michael. This includes the Urantia Book and all the transcripts from the Teaching Mission. We know that this may be narrow in its scope and narrow-minded in some ways that it does not include other genres of God belief and instructions, but this is what we want to present. You come to listen to me; you come to read these transcripts because you want the “real deal,” as you call it; you want something with meat in it; you want something that is hearty, one that you can trust, one that is believable, one that you intrinsically know comes from Christ Michael’s intentions through this work and these programs. This is the same intention for these sites, it must be.
6) The book "Crisis 2015: The Second Coming of Machiventa Melchizedek" claims you were visibly/physically here (using a transient physical body) and working directly with humans in this decade. Is any of this true? If yes, how much can you tell us?
MACHIVENTA: We have said before we are not amenable to answering questions involving the phenomenology of our presence on your planet.
Practices and attitudes
for better Adjuster alignment and communication
7) Besides meditation, burning desire, and intention, what practices and attitudes can one engage in, to achieve Adjuster alignment and direct communication?
MACHIVENTA: Number one, be accepting of your neighbors. If you have any resistance to your neighbors in any way, then that is something within yourself and will be one of those impediments to your growth and to your eventual fusion.
Liz: That was a very meaningful answer to me. Thank you so much for that.
MACHIVENTA: Thank you.
Roxie: (Continuing with readers questions.)
When does the turnaround
for humanity begin?
8) Is it your view that since the turnaround for humanity can only begin after the great, coming population reduction, all current co-creative efforts should be on implementing resources for that time of future use (e.g. the ‘hub’ website project), instead of fixing/improving our systemically corrupted, fundamentally broken social and economic systems?
MACHIVENTA: I’ll draw my answer from the very first part of your question, in that it has already begun; we are not waiting for the decimation. All those steps that are necessary for the reconstruction of your world must begin now. We again say these plans must be known to a majority of the population of the world whether they believe in God or not. They must be aware that there is a plan available for reconstructing your world, your societies, your nations to become much more socially functional. These plans are now being shared with you, this small group and the hundreds of people who follow these transcripts and those who have read them, and those who will read them. It has begun; we do not wait, we are not waiting, we are doing it now.
Is a
military conflict likely to be the planet’s undoing?
9) The brinksmanship among nations today seems more like childish games of ‘chicken’ rather than real intent for major conflict: How would you compare the concerns of Melchizedeks and Most Highs that military conflict is likely to be the planet’s undoing?
MACHIVENTA: Thank you for your thoughtful question. It is not the union of the Melchizedeks or Most Highs that will be involved in this, but the thinking of the individuals of those leaders, politically, militarily or otherwise. It is those individuals who would profit from war in one way or another, either through power, control and authority that would be of benefit. It is not we who are promoting that or striving to encourage it, but we want you to know that we are not a part of that thinking.
10) Does the Oversoul have consciousness, identity, mind, will, and personhood?
MACHIVENTA: This is a question we care not to answer at this time.
The next human species,
“Homo spiritus”
11) Is a new human species labeled “Homo Spiritus” being planned to replace Homo sapiens? If yes, what can you reveal to us about the timeline and process?
MACHIVENTA: The heart of the question really can be answered by the intention of the creation of the current species that dominates the planet at this time. This is the next step for the next species that will come and it is an eventuality that a new species will emanate or come from the spark of Homo sapiens at this time.
The nature of the Supreme
Being
12) My understanding is that while The Universal Father is affectionate & personal, The Supreme Being is businesslike and impersonal to the individual. How would you correct this perception (if untrue)?
MACHIVENTA: It would be best for God the Supreme to answer the question Itself. You should know in the answer to the question that you are stating that God the Supreme is in the process of becoming God-like to the parallel of the Creator, the First Source and Center. God the Supreme is the experiential summation of all the potential that God, the original Creator did not have in mind or did not know except through experience. God the Supreme is the God of all experience, the full expression of the potential of God within each individual and within the universe and the potential that lay within the experiential process of God, the First Source and Center.
The
mechanisms of human conservatism
13) I would like to learn something about the mechanisms of human conservatism. Communication in a social network in various religious groups gave a bright understanding that a human is extremely conservative in his views, and also has a blind fixation to various external sources, which he calls the definitive and unchanging Truth, such as the Bible, the Quran, the Torah or the Urantia Book. Such conservatism rejects even sound logic and obvious contradictions in the source, such as the “atoning sacrifice” of Christ and the unconditional love of the Father, which does not require any sacrifices. What could you say about human conservatism, for our understanding? What are your comments?
MACHIVENTA: The most liberal perspective that one can take to say about conservatism is to accept the presence of God within yourself and explore it. This is a point of resolution for conservatism, liberalism and other points of view which may be deemed political whether in a religious setting, a spiritual setting or human other setting.
Balancing
revealing truths and preservation of older beliefs
14) The question of ancient and modern revelations. What can you say to those conservative believers who put on a pedestal some external source of truth? How to maintain a balance between striving for a new, this revealing truth and the preservation of stability of views and beliefs?
MACHIVENTA: I’m going to bring a halt to these questions. These are superfluous, irrelevant and have no meaning for the work that we are doing now with you and the work you have to do as individuals or as groups. Yes, the individual who brought these forward has many questions and they are earnest questions, we have no doubt about that, and we do not doubt the sincerity of this individual asking these questions, but we must stick to the point, our time is short, your time is even shorter. We must get to the point of reconciling the 200,000 years of spiritual ignorance on this planet with the reality that you now live with the results of what is occurring in your world now.
Yes, the consequences are God’s in resolving the eventual outcomes of those decisions and what is happening in your world now, but co-creatively you are powerful individuals and must take that power in your hands and your minds and walk and think and command as though you were Christ Michael yourself, Jesus who walked upon this earth and knew all that is going on in the 21st Century and the centuries ahead. You must do your part powerfully, sincerely and earnestly to take charge of what is occurring now in your world and that which will occur. Remember that all those thoughts that you have, all those commands that you have reserved which do no harm to others, which do not infringe upon the liberties and freedoms and spiritual entitlements and authorities of others, whether they are mortals or the celestials or the Most Highs themselves and the Divine. You can make those commands now and we ask you to do so in God’s name. Thank you and good day.
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